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carlthejackal said:
I can see your point but you are thinking like his team mate not his agent or even the club executives.

Let's say he leaves on a free. That's £40m lost minimum in today's crazy market. And that's £8m a year over a 5 year contract or £160k/week just on the money saved by the club.

The love for a club can only count for a certain amount.
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Yeah those numbers makes sense but my concern would be the other players on less kicking up a fuss.

Tbh the way wages are going it's only a matter of time before 160k is an average wage at any top 6 club.

Look what's likely to happen at Utd now Sanchez is on 500k a week... the likes of Pogba will be wanting their slice. Could get messy.
 
Skylarker said:
Yeah those numbers makes sense but my concern would be the other players on less kicking up a fuss.

Tbh the way wages are going it's only a matter of time before 160k is an average wage at any top 6 club.

Look what's likely to happen at Utd now Sanchez is on 500k a week... the likes of Pogba will be wanting their slice. Could get messy.
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lets put this sanchez deal into perspective.

they are paying a 29 year old the same wages (reputedly) as Messi.

They are paying higher wages than any chinese club has paid... allegedly.

They are also paying martial and rashford to sit on the bench now cos it'll have to be sanchez left of lucky... maybe one will get the right wing berth i suppose.
 
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I see hazard has spoken out on these rumours of a donkey arriving at Chelsea. He's not in favour saying they don't need a striker so.... well... seems Chelsea are not all on the same page here.
 
Garlic Klopp said:
Apparently Pogba's agent is demanding his client has an increase in his £260k a week salary now that Sanchez is there on £450k a week, and so it starts. Utd may have a big turnover, but I suspect their wage bill is about to increase dramatically as a lot of players ask for increases, especially those who are about to negotiate new contracts.
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Talking about this over the weekend. Arse are shaky,so are the chavs and the spuds slipped up again yesterday. This could tear the utd dressing room apart. We must twat Swansea tonight <ok>
 
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carlthejackal said:
Klopp says that the club must make it difficult for players to leave.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jurgen-klopp-wants-liverpool-club-11890539

Well, there is a straightforward solution. If we don't want an important player to leave, we pay him what he is worth in the market. It is ridiculous that some do not realise this. Take Can. He is on apparently £55k a week. His worth is probably at this time more than £40m as he is young. In 4 months time he'll be gone and this money will be lost (and an equivalent replacement will need to be found) and on top that player will probably be paid double by his new club.

So, why not factor in the signing on fee that he will get by signing for say Juventus (£10-15m) and the wages he is worth say £100k/week? Which means wages of £160-£200k a week. And the club will still in profit as it won't need to fork out £40m plus for a replacement together the big hike in wages.

AND if he plays well, he'll be worth £60-£100m in 2 years time when Barcelona comes calling <whistle>

If some players are financially illiterate, their agents are certainly not. And clubs like ours should stop thinking they are by offering these players way below what they will get by leaving. Same with Ozil at Arsenal. They offer to double his wages but if he leaves he gets three or four times that amount. Wenger says he is so surprised they want to leave.
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And if we give Can 160k a week then Hendo will want the same. And then Gini will be asking for similar and others... it has further implications.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I see hazard has spoken out on these rumours of a donkey arriving at Chelsea. He's not in favour saying they don't need a striker so.... well... seems Chelsea are not all on the same page here.
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I can see Hazard, Crouch and Barnes forming a deadly 3 up top, no idea what he’s on about.
 
Terry Carvalho
Essien Lampard
Drogba


vs

Cahill Rudiger
Drinkwater Barkley
Morata

the spine of that team <whistle>
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Terry Carvalho
Essien Lampard
Drogba


vs

Cahill Rudiger
Drinkwater Barkley
Morata

the spine of that team <whistle>
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I forgot Barkley there <laugh>

Cabellero
Rudiger Christiansen Cahill
Moses drinkwater Barkely alonso
pedro Barnes hazard

It's getting bad. remember when LFC went through this... there comes a time when it all just breaks and that time could come with one injury to hazard
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
And if we give Can 160k a week then Hendo will want the same. And then Gini will be asking for similar and others... it has further implications.
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Yes, dressing room harmony and all that.

That is why to let a player's contract run down to the end is so disastrous for a club. It should never happen or else you run into issues raised by Can, Sanchez Ozil and others.

Having said that, other players must surely realise each situation is different and the club can only act on its best interests. A player letting a contract being run down is losing money in the last few years as a renewal of contract usually means a significant increase in wages. Also Can's team mates must realise that getting a replacement will probably cost the club £40m-50m and a player on higher wages than Can.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
lets put this sanchez deal into perspective.

they are paying a 29 year old the same wages (reputedly) as Messi.

They are paying higher wages than any chinese club has paid... allegedly.

They are also paying martial and rashford to sit on the bench now cos it'll have to be sanchez left of lucky... maybe one will get the right wing berth i suppose.
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The wages being bandied about for Sanchez are just astronomical. And totally out of sync with any of their own players and with other top premiership players wages.

BUT...before we all feel sorry for the mancs, their financial costs on that signing are not THAT bad. If they valued Mkhitarian at £30m then they are getting Sanchez for that price. Let's assume that Sanchez's real value (if he had a 2-3 years left on his contract) is £90m which is conservative in today's market. So the mancs are saving £60m on that fee. And even though he is 29 years, IF he is sold 2 or 3 years into his contract and if he is banging in the goals he may still have some resale value at 31 years. say £40m easily. So the mancs have a potential earnings/savings of £100m. Image and marketing rights etc may bring this to £120m. Sanchez and his agents have been trying to get a slice of that cake. Even with the signing on fee and agents fee at £30m and the £69m (450K/week over 3 years before he is sold) represents an total outlay of £99m. Still well within the potential savings/earnings the club get from the signing.
 
BobbyD said:
thats like putting

hyppia, carragher
mascherano alonso
Gerrard Torres


or

Lovren Klavan
Gini, Henderson
Milner Firmino :p
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Difference is we didn’t have a bottomless pit of money to replace. Either way I still think the bottom lfc one looks better than bottom CFC one <laugh>
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Difference is we didn’t have a bottomless pit of money to replace. Either way I still think the bottom lfc one looks better than bottom CFC one <laugh>
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i think my point was you have just chucked in a load of squad players in (like what i did lol).

as for bottomless pit, thats United and City. Ours isn't that outrageous anymore and hasn't been for a long time.
 
BobbyD said:
i think my point was you have just chucked in a load of squad players in (like what i did lol).

as for bottomless pit, thats United and City. Ours isn't that outrageous anymore and hasn't been for a long time.
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TBF that quality would apply only to City and PSG. Owned by national governments and associated organisations. Teams like the Mancs, LFC, and Arsenal have to look to the bottom line even though they may spend big on one or two players.
 
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