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right so he's pretty **** then... running about pointing at a stupid place to go then blindly passes to the opposition then shouts at beneteke while then trying to chase back.

It's a wonder he didn't fall over multi tasking like that.

He'd be better giving it to lallana wouldn't he
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
I'm really not a fan of Lucas but he seems to be playing better at CB than DM.

But that's more of him playing better than his usual low standard, than rising to a good enough Top 4 level. He will put himself about but his positioning is all wrong (not his fault because he's not a CB).

Agree that Skrtel is weak link and I hope he offloaded in the summer. We need to strengthen in the summer - GK, RCB would be my priority and any change should go towards strengthening the full back positions.

Good point on Can - what is the right partner for Can? What type of midfielder is Can lol. At the moment, he seems to be holding midfielder who occasionally goes up - I'm guessing Hendo is supposed to be the more aggressive of the two. I think Can has improved a lot defensively and maybe that could be his role going forward in which case you want a powerful B2B.
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I'd say Can is the muscle and dirty work, and the one who keeps it moving, like Toure. Next to him I think he needs a quicker, more elegant creative type midfield.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
right so he's pretty **** then... running about pointing at a stupid place to go then blindly passes to the opposition then shouts at beneteke while then trying to chase back.

It's a wonder he didn't fall over multi tasking like that.

He'd be better giving it to lallana wouldn't he
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lol good one.
 
Just waiting for @Treble to tell us what he thinks of Can XD.

I actually think Cans pretty good (annoyingly as Jimmy can then rave about him). Only problem with him is he thinks hes yaya and normally dribbles it all the way to the end and either loses it or plays it off (good skill to have being to carry the ball but decision making is suspect)
 
BobbyD said:
Just waiting for @Treble to tell us what he thinks of Can XD.

I actually think Cans pretty good (annoyingly as Jimmy can then rave about him). Only problem with him is he thinks hes yaya and normally dribbles it all the way to the end and either loses it or plays it off (good skill to have being to carry the ball but decision making is suspect)
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Agree - he needs to work on the end product.

But at 22, he's got plenty of time to improve that side of his game.

And we really need to buy someone to partner him.
 
BobbyD said:
Just waiting for @Treble to tell us what he thinks of Can XD.

I actually think Cans pretty good (annoyingly as Jimmy can then rave about him). Only problem with him is he thinks hes yaya and normally dribbles it all the way to the end and either loses it or plays it off (good skill to have being to carry the ball but decision making is suspect)
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sums it up pretty well.. he's ego is as big as ronaldo's but he's nowhere near the level. belief is great but thinking you are yaya and can swan round all over isn't the great idea when you are playing in a 4231.. after all cheslea know all about this with fabregas who's a great player but forgot this entirely this year.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Lol I'll have to find the clip but he's literally pointing to where Benteke needs to move.

Matip will be interesting - as you say, he's a natural LCB but can play RCB and DM.
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I do remember that, he has the ball wideish right, was looking up to deliver in the box and benteke was hanging around on the edge back to goal looking for ball to feet, he pointed twice to get into the box and then by time he did Can has put in a cross (although was a **** one anyway).

I thoight tekkers was alright, but still one or two things like that are frustrating. He's best in the box but arm seems reluctant to get in there, maybe Rodgers wanted him to get involved in build up too much and it's playing on his mind?

Was another occasion he was hanging out left wing and got given the ball twice and looked up to cross... To realise Coutinho was only player in the middle.

Can has been good but do feel his form has dipped last month or so, potentially because of games played etc. He needs to do more on the ball in terms of passing imo
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
sums it up pretty well.. he's ego is as big as ronaldo's but he's nowhere near the level. belief is great but thinking you are yaya and can swan round all over isn't the great idea when you are playing in a 4231.. after all cheslea know all about this with fabregas who's a great player but forgot this entirely this year.
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True, to be honest i'm just waiting for Klopp to start playing Benteke on a regular basis so that he can show what a beast he is. You don't become a 1 in 2 striker for Villa unless you are the real deal. Look how pants they are now that they've lost him
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
I do remember that, he has the ball wideish right, was looking up to deliver in the box and benteke was hanging around on the edge back to goal looking for ball to feet, he pointed twice to get into the box and then by time he did Can has put in a cross (although was a **** one anyway).

I thoight tekkers was alright, but still one or two things like that are frustrating. He's best in the box but arm seems reluctant to get in there, maybe Rodgers wanted him to get involved in build up too much and it's playing on his mind?

Was another occasion he was hanging out left wing and got given the ball twice and looked up to cross... To realise Coutinho was only player in the middle.

Can has been good but do feel his form has dipped last month or so, potentially because of games played etc. He needs to do more on the ball in terms of passing imo
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Fair points - I wasnt having a go at Benteke (honest), was just highlighting a moment when can tracks back and recovers the ball well.

I think Can's performance did dip but he's been really good over the past few games. I think some fans do get hung up on his attacking contribution (which does need to improve) but I think his role covers so much more, particularly for a defensive aspect which he has done really well. But as we all know, still a raw player.
 
BobbyD said:
True, to be honest i'm just waiting for Klopp to start playing Benteke on a regular basis so that he can show what a beast he is. You don't become a 1 in 2 striker for Villa unless you are the real deal. Look how pants they are now that they've lost him
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You become a 1 in 2 goal scorer by playing in a team that plays to your strengths. Sadly, we don't and won't do that.

Good player but just not right for us.

And Benteke has hardly featured for us, with Origi Now favoured ahead of him (despite everyone fully fit). I think Benteke is a goner.
 
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BobbyD said:
True, to be honest i'm just waiting for Klopp to start playing Benteke on a regular basis so that he can show what a beast he is. You don't become a 1 in 2 striker for Villa unless you are the real deal. Look how pants they are now that they've lost him
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Ah yes but they've only been pant up til now. the machine only plays for march to may and then saves them.

He's going to propel us to the europa league now a goal a game from here on in.

get him in your FF team.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
I disagree. Players like Carra and Arbeloa did the basics to a very high level which is what made them good enough to be constants in a top performing team.

Flanno simply doesn't - look at the Palace game. You can argue he's coming back from injury but this happens every time he is attacked. This wasn't a bad game for Flanno - it's the norm. Even against a city team which didn't even bother to attack, he was still beaten easily on a few occasions.

As much as we joke about it, It's nothing to do with where he is from or how limited he is - every squad player needs solid yet unspectacular players.

I simply don't think he does the basics to a good enough level.
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do you remember how Carrahger looked when he first got into the team? He was shocking!
 
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