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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    You missed out Koné. Out for 6 weeks with knee injury that isn't serious according to his manager. Could there be a bargain to be had in light of the injury?
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    They didn't need a GK at that time as they had offered De Gea a new contract which he signed and then ManU pulled the offer <laugh>
    Mount will mainly replace Eriksen in their MF as he looked blown half way thru season but yes as i said originally CF should have been priority 1 though they are supposedly close to signing one Hojlund(sp).
     
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    Maybe we need some incoming to finance Colwill/Lavia..... :emoticon-0164-cash:.....get some big wages off the books
     
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  4. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    We've seen before that when Liverpool trim off high-wage senior players it doesn't necessarily trigger us buying more players - as often as not it's John Henry trying to keep his nett spend (and wage bill) down. Not altogether bad though when you see how much deadwood United have carried since the retirement of SAF (according to their own fans on the subject, and with some justification IMO). And we just can't be City and have £200k-a-week players not even getting near the bench each week, never mind the first eleven.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    their midfield cannot be mount, casimero, fernandes. "can't run/won't run" thats why i don't get it at all. they need to upgrade fred/mctominay not put an AM in there.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    he has been disocunted by the friendly press. I toyes with taking thuram off as well, bar the continued cycle of agent talk making him a case in point
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

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    well Mount can & has played CM plus they often had Casemiro , Eriksen Fernandes together and Mount will be more useful for defensive work than Eriksen .
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    those rumours are thaigo off for nothing and henderson for 40mil or something ridiculous.

    It'd be wages off but itd then be more rebuild

    if we got 60mil the paid and dropped 360k per week in wages i'd be more than happy to see that blood money go to pay off the anfield road stand. after all some blood money supporters would sit in it (city, utd, newcastle fans)

    Overall

    Fabinho
    Macallister
    Szoboszlai
    Jones
    elliott
    bajcetic
    morton

    Lavia
    thuram

    even if we signed the two it looks very young at that point and a developmental kind of set up. You'd have to assume trent stepping in there surely.

    For me Thiago is fabinho back up in this 3223 formation. Henderson imo doesn't suit being that false 10 sort of guy up the park so szoboszlai is no 1 pick and elliott and jones would all want that other slot

    If its 433 then its another debate altogether.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    And they were ****.

    aksing that to play the odd time is ok but to ask it for a full season is inviting hammerings

    Casimero cannot do the running that would be required.9
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

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    Big Dom and AMA have arrived for preseason training.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    2 out of 3. BOO HISS FSG OUT.
     
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  12. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Interestingly Nunez still wearing 27. Are we keeping the 9 for someone special?
     
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  13. Milk..

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    I think the option we let Henderson or Thiago go and get no one else in for midfield is possible. It might have been preplanned that way since the start. That's probably what was planned in order to partially balance Szob coming in.

    Maybe Klopp envisions more time for our younger stars this season. If Klopp plans on playing Curtis and Bajcetic more and trusts them as cover, maybe we can afford to lose Hendo and/or Thiago. TAA can cover Fabs. Not an ideal situation, but if money is tight we have the space now...

    We've lost three midfielders already, but really only Milner is the one we will notice. Ox and Keira were non entities last season.


    So it's more like one out and two in so far... And if Bajcetic and Jones are going to feature more... We could (maybe) afford to lose Hendo and Thiago. As, I said, not ideal, but could work.
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    The money for the stand and for players are two different things, and should be kept separate. personally, I don't think we should be paying for the stand at all as NESV as they then were committed £200m to build a new stadium, and used that promise, alongside RBS, to fend off Hicks' farcical 'Epic swindle' nonsense in the High Court. Point is, it doesn't affect FFP, nor does any debt on stadium or infrastructure.

    Any money made on player sales and wage bill should go back in there for that reason. If FSG are using stadium debt as a reason for their parsimony then they're absolute helmets - it's their asset and they can write it off in a stroke without any effect on FFP whatsoever.
     
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  15. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    I'd like to see us trying out Joe at DM too - he's fast, can tackle, is very comfortable on the ball, and has a 50-yard pass in him. The only problem is that he doesn't always read the game that well, but let's be honest - Trent doesn't read the game defensively at all, and we're rightly pushing him into midfield to utilise his undoubted talents more proficiently.
     
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  16. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    I think Casemiro, in the main, has been a success, tbh. He was utter ****e against us in the 7-0, and I think that highlighted how vulnerable United still are when he's not there. I still think Martinez is the no 6 they're looking for, but most of my United friends and neighbours see him as a permanent fixture at CB now for both them and Argentina (perhaps rightly).
     
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  17. Solid Air 2

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    Personally think the next signing will be defensive .
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yes he was ok for the majority of the season but was blowing out his arse quite a lot.

    he's going to be 32 this season and is rotund. theres a reason real were delighted to off load for a vast fee to utd. Absolutely nothing to do with his calss, his attitude or that, purely he is never going to be a long term option and he won't cope with the demand.

    Martinez is a CB but not an english CB. he's not been really found out too much cos he is dirty as **** and has theat utter commitment but he is dominated in the air.

    Utd have a big problem that getting rid of de gea solves. if the next keeper an push that defensive line 10 yards up the park then the spec becomes that space behind the cbs rather than the whole outfit sitting deep or some not bothering to track back.

    the lacked goals imo simply because they sit deeper to protect de gea and the other defenders.

    For me utd no 1 priority should have been a sweeper keeper, no 2 a partner for casamiro and no 3 the striker.

    Instead up pops mason mount for a vast fee.

    right now this would even be a transition phase stil lfor me.

    NEW GK
    Dalo? varane Martinez Shaw? (instantly you see why its transitonal, those full backs)
    Casemiro NEW CM
    Anthony Fernandes Rashford (this is their best 3, you'd want to see snacho, garancho and others step up)
    NEW STRIKER

    or some such version of this in a 433 with double pivot at CM.

    As it stands they now have mount in which creates a different balance and we have never seen utd play a 3223 and move someone into midfield form the back line ala city or our poor efforts at it.

    Utd need 3 more signings imo just to consolidate top 4 they have earned back.
     
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  19. Solid Air 2

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    Mount just plays in your New CM position .
     
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  20. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Yeah, I'd like to make it clear that I rate Mount, but not what united paid for him, and certainly not for the £80-100m figures we saw 2 months ago when he was being constantly linked with us. I truly am happy with what we've bought on that score instead, but tbf United have got him for a price that they can afford, even if we couldn't.
     
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