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moreinjuredthanowen said:
If you read any players who make a big step down like this they can say a lot of things but they all regret not making it at the big club.

Look at zaha, do you think he regrets leaving man utd? He's tried his best get a move but he is stuck at palace with not much bar playing games and not getting relegated to shout about.

theres plenty of examples of guys who've been let go or sold and very few that achieve the success after. Should he leave and play? Yes if he thinks he's going to play no games at all here. there ought to be plent of changes to get in 15-20 games this busy season.

The issue is he's been on this "i'm off" stuff for 18months, well before he ever established himself really. He's had his loan at fulham and actually got 14 games in with 2 assists and 2 goals so thats not bad butWhat he actually needed to do is to be screaming in the bosses ears with his performances that trent can go play no 8.

He hasn't done that nor ever got close to doing it has he? A massive preseason and then with 5 subs carry on into this season pushing like hell, thats not what he's tried to do. This is why we've bought Ramsay, we have known williams is going for that long period of time.

The only thing to be said is Full back is a reasonably specialist position so he really has only RW or RB to aim for with us and well... so he's decided he's off before ever pushing trent like tsimikas is pushing robertson.



The contrast to this is Conor coady, That lad never had a shot or ever even got close to our first team, he worked hard and got a loan to sheff utd in league 1 and did well. He was still never ever getting near out first team so he really had no option but to go to huddersfeld and work like a dog to get back up the divisions, he got his break with wolves and their system and had got to play for england out of it.

Williams is not coady. He had a decent shot at a good amount of games and to push klopp's thinking a bit but he's decided trent and salah are too good and wanted to go so he's limited himself. IMO he'll regret not trying

ESP when Ramsay is there with a prem medal round his neck come may ;)
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Hes 21. Had 6 months of first team football and has. WC coming up. He obviously didn’t want to spend 6 months sitting on the bench before leaving in January. We’ve just signed a new RB as cover in Ramsey so clewrly knew game time would be even more limited.

Not sure how you can blast the guy for going out there to try play football rather than sitting on our bench for next 4 years and leaving on a free with probably less than 50 appearances
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Hes 21. Had 6 months of first team football and has. WC coming up. He obviously didn’t want to spend 6 months sitting on the bench before leaving in January. We’ve just signed a new RB as cover in Ramsey so clewrly knew game time would be even more limited.

Not sure how you can blast the guy for going out there to try play football rather than sitting on our bench for next 4 years and leaving on a free with probably less than 50 appearances
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I'm sure the club will have been completely honest with him about his potential playing time. Tsimikas is the perfect understudy for Robbo and brings his own personality to the role as well. Williams has been given a chance to show what he's got but hasn't been able to replicate on the right what Tsimikas has on the left.

I don't know how well stocked Wales are in any positions but I think he's shown his value in the national side more than he has in his club side so I don't think he needs to worry about his Wales place just yet.
 
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Solid_Air 2 said:
so if through playing regular PL football he does well at Forest and then gets a move to a big club here or abroad why would he regret it as a career stalled now often doesn't take off as it might have done .
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Cos it'll never be Liverpool:)

He's here since age 9. It'll never be liverpool.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
£17.5m and 15% sell on fee for Williams. Decent player, just not quite top level but a good prem standard. Be interesting see how he does for Forest this year. Needs to up
his game defensively but going forward looks to have ability.
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They usually play with wing backs so that should suit him. Depends if they stick with it though, they've lost a lot of players
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
Think they have bought a RB from Bayern (?) so could be RWB or RM or even RW


but definitely on the right



unless they play him on the left like Wales have
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Usually play footy with a few Forest fans on Tuesdays but at bloody work tomorrow, otherwise I'd ask them what they thought
 
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