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Number 1 Jasper said:
My point was simply that the reasons you should not sell coutinho to Barca , are , imho very very similar to the reasons we should not sell to you . Doubt he will go this time round , though he will go in Jan I reckon , but we won't be selling to you .
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Honestly, you've got that wrong because the similarity you point out here isn't a similarity at all. The similarity [and I'm still not sure you can say there is one] is in both players not playing for their current club - yours refusing to and ours faking an injury so as not to - so even the reasons aren't the same.

Barce have piled pressure upon pressure on us and the player. 1st offer made ... 'Unveiling on Friday' ... 2nd offer made 'deal done' ... 'player doesn't get on with Klopp' .... 'unveiling now next Friday' ... 3rd offer made ..

LFC tapped up player and walked away ...

I think the above shows a legitimate reason for us not to give in to Barce. Whereas any reason you have not to sell to us is because we've had enough of your players already <laugh>
 
carlthejackal said:
Exactly what Coutinho did. Didn't he sign a 6 year contract earlier this year? Then decided he didn't want to play for us afew months later when Barca came calling?.

I am agreeably surprised by our burst of buying late in the window. With our buying spree it is increasingly looking like we are using the money we would get for selling him to Barca for £130m...Hope I am wrong but it seems we are spending his sale money ...:bandit:

Triggering the buy out clause for Keita was a no brainer. We bid higher than the clause and it was turned down. The logical thing to do then was to buy him now for next year by submitting a bid before any one else could get in.

Lemar is also a high quality player who would cost a fair bit but would enhance the first team And VVD seems to be coming to a positive conclusion.

It is looking to be a great window after all. If we do pull off these deals, we would have shown that we can compete as a top 4 club to get the best players. I am feeling very positive about a title run. Am I allowed to say that ? <whistle>
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No that silly at this stage wait till April
NYIOY <laugh>
 
astro said:
Contracts exist to protect the value to the club too.

Southampton leaked to the press.

He informed Southampton the first day of preseason he wanted to move. Their [HASHTAG]#desperate[/HASHTAG] attempts to provoke a bidding war rather than accept a world record fee provoked the mess. He spoke out after he was illegally fined.
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and did all the rest weeks before.

in reality they had a discussion last season on this and apparently saints were happy for his agent to be talking to clubs. it was the public i choos LFC that pissed off southampton
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Honestly, you've got that wrong because the similarity you point out here isn't a similarity at all. The similarity [and I'm still not sure you can say there is one] is in both players not playing for their current club - yours refusing to and ours faking an injury so as not to - so even the reasons aren't the same.

Barce have piled pressure upon pressure on us and the player. 1st offer made ... 'Unveiling on Friday' ... 2nd offer made 'deal done' ... 'player doesn't get on with Klopp' .... 'unveiling now next Friday' ... 3rd offer made ..

LFC tapped up player and walked away ...

I think the above shows a legitimate reason for us not to give in to Barce. Whereas any reason you have not to sell to us is because we've had enough of your players already <laugh>
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Do you mean had enough as in " Don't need any more ", or as in" the ones we bought are ****e , we won't be back for more" ? Barring Lovren , I bet I can guess the answer !
 
These are my salad days said:
If and I mean if we get him - I would fully expect to see the same happen to us if Barca/Real/PSG/Bayern come calling
Would add Utd but we don't seem to trade but they are defo the level above us and karma is a bitch - that said as is well documented on these pages it happens to us as well :(

I do feel for Southampton but could be worse when you see what is happening at Monaco or what happened to us with H&G
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Mate, it happens to every club - even Barcelona now. I am not aware of any Saints fan who expected VvD to spend his whole career with us; but after signing a 6 year deal, it's not unreasonable imo to hold him to 1/3 of that. Then if he knuckles down and gives us another year, he gets his big move with our blessing.

On the other hand, I'm struggling to understand a world in which a CB - even a very good one - who was injured for half of last season, is worth £70 mill +, and I'm tempted to say "what, are you mad? Sell the **** NOW".

For what it's worth, I don't think he's going anywhere, and I don't think Coutinho is either - but the press have to sell papers any way they can, and the back pages will be full of this crap until the deadline closes.
 
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Number 1 Jasper said:
Do you mean had enough as in " Don't need any more ", or as in" the ones we bought are ****e , we won't be back for more" ? Barring Lovren , I bet I can guess the answer !
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What is it about Southampton that we seem to covet their players more than anyone else's? I doubt there is some secret association but is there an automatic assumption that a player playing well for the Saints will do well for us too?
 
astro said:
No, his manager (who has been there 5 minutes because Southampton think it's fine for them to disregard contracts) asked if he was 100% dedicated, he said in private he wanted a move, so he was left behind.

He has been ordered to train alone by the club and so has done so every day.
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He's a prick, mate.

Hope you have £20 handy, we have a bet, remember?
 
saintKlopp said:
Fair enough. <ok>
Just out of interest, and a serious question - why has selling to LFC become such an issue amongst Saints fans? Is it because we tapped him up, because we keep buying your players, or something else I'm missing?
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<laugh>Have a look at the back of one of your programmes mate - at first glance, it looks like one of ours.
 
carlthejackal said:
Exactly what Coutinho did. Didn't he sign a 6 year contract earlier this year? Then decided he didn't want to play for us afew months later when Barca came calling?.

I am agreeably surprised by our burst of buying late in the window. With our buying spree it is increasingly looking like we are using the money we would get for selling him to Barca for £130m...Hope I am wrong but it seems we are spending his sale money ...:bandit:

Triggering the buy out clause for Keita was a no brainer. We bid higher than the clause and it was turned down. The logical thing to do then was to buy him now for next year by submitting a bid before any one else could get in.

Lemar is also a high quality player who would cost a fair bit but would enhance the first team And VVD seems to be coming to a positive conclusion.

It is looking to be a great window after all. If we do pull off these deals, we would have shown that we can compete as a top 4 club to get the best players. I am feeling very positive about a title run. Am I allowed to say that ? <whistle>
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5.5 years yes... the only difference is van dijk was on 65k which was barely prem average and coutinho was 180k

Coutinho reputedly had conversations with klopp in JUNE and was yeah alls good so LFC plans were based on that. thats why this has been rejected mostly.

i agree for 3mil it is a no brainer at this point but madness from leipzig to lose themselves 15mil from mouthing.

Lemar is a hmm.. ok... like if you want to like... but it would balacne the attack if origi goes.. just we need a CM,CB and LB... and GK...

Thats why something is afoot with VVD but it seems offer is on table and some say its agreed but only to be done on deadline day.. again for face savng
 
saintKlopp said:
Fair enough. <ok>
Just out of interest, and a serious question - why has selling to LFC become such an issue amongst Saints fans? Is it because we tapped him up, because we keep buying your players, or something else I'm missing?
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From my point of view , it's the way the players left . Lallana , became captain signed a 5 year deal & Moved , Lovren , wanted to play for a bigger club . Lambert , left with all our best wishes . not sure if I can find them , but you only have to look at the official club statements put out when Lallana & Lovren left , compared to the fact Lambert put out an open letter .

IMHO , this time round the tapping up has something to do with it , but more likely " Oh no , here we go again " .
 
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saintKlopp said:
Fair enough. <ok>
Just out of interest, and a serious question - why has selling to LFC become such an issue amongst Saints fans? Is it because we tapped him up, because we keep buying your players, or something else I'm missing?
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It's because the city of Liverpool is to build a cruise ship terminal and take a large chunk of Southampton's cut of the industry.<whistle>
 
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carlthejackal said:
What is it about Southampton that we seem to covet their players more than anyone else's? I doubt there is some secret association but is there an automatic assumption that a player playing well for the Saints will do well for us too?
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Honestly not sure . see my reply to SaintKlopp , if that helps .
 
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