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No more of this "it's the board" majiggy then. Wenger decides the wages for the contracts. Losing players looks like it's down to him, as we suspected it was the whole way through.

Seems Wenger gives Gazidis instructions & he tries to make it happen, but the buck stops with Wenger.

The "socialist" payscale is ridiculous, and will never work in a capitalist society. It just creates frustration & overpaid rubbish players who are impossible to shift - Chamakh. Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci, Djourou (possibly), and Arshavin.
 
No more of this "it's the board" majiggy then. Wenger decides the wages for the contracts. Losing players looks like it's down to him, as we suspected it was the whole way through.

Seems Wenger gives Gazidis instructions & he tries to make it happen, but the buck stops with Wenger.

The "socialist" payscale is ridiculous, and will never work in a capitalist society. It just creates frustration & overpaid rubbish players who are impossible to shift - Chamakh. Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci, Djourou (possibly), and Arshavin.
And you know this based on a BS Mirror Article <ok>
Don't believe everything your read
 
Not sure how you can put Arshavin in with that lot. He was the 'marquee' signing everyone wanted when we got him, and he proved that he was worth that money at the start by saving our season in 2009.
 
No more of this "it's the board" majiggy then. Wenger decides the wages for the contracts. Losing players looks like it's down to him, as we suspected it was the whole way through.

Seems Wenger gives Gazidis instructions & he tries to make it happen, but the buck stops with Wenger.

The "socialist" payscale is ridiculous, and will never work in a capitalist society. It just creates frustration & overpaid rubbish players who are impossible to shift - Chamakh. Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci, Djourou (possibly), and Arshavin.

lol yep, and you are not gullible...
 
"I don't know how it works at other clubs, but the wages at
Arsenal are decided in consultation between me and the
board,"

Not gullible, there's a quote. They may share responsibility, but Wenger is definitely 50% of it.
 
"I don't know how it works at other clubs, but the wages at
Arsenal are decided in consultation between me and the
board,"

Not gullible, there's a quote. They may share responsibility, but Wenger is definitely 50% of it.

And how should the manager not be a source of feedback of what a player is worth? That is not exactly what you wrote above.
 
And by the way Denilson is the only questionable there. Squillaci had 2 very good seasons in Spain before he joined us. Chamakh was on great form before he joined us. Arshavin was one of the highlights of the Euro 2008 (think the demolishing of Netherlands), and was on form for club. Djorou has never been anything but solid, even if not exceptional. Bendtner was the most promising youngster that broke into the first team when Walcott was all the hype, and his record overall isn't even bad although he almost always came in as a sub.


A contract is made on past evidence, not based on the players they subsequently become.
 
Very true. However, with the "socialist" wage structure, many players brought in have doubled or tripled their wages to bring them in line with other players. If they were given a modest increase, they would be easier to move on if they failed. As it is, they're given massive increases that make them impossible to shift.

Personally I think Wenger pulls the strings on most things. He seems to be the man in charge of transfers & contracts & wages. It's a huge issue as he effectively seems to run the club. I'd far rather he delegated & had someone he trusted to do the contracts & transfers as Dein did.
 
Just read a couple of rumours about Isco to Chelsea... I'll be pissed if they grab yet another of the tricky midfield/wide players that is highly rated and linked to Arsenal!

I'd love to see Isco re-united with Cazorla at Arsenal :(
 
No more of this "it's the board" majiggy then. Wenger decides the wages for the contracts. Losing players looks like it's down to him, as we suspected it was the whole way through.

Seems Wenger gives Gazidis instructions & he tries to make it happen, but the buck stops with Wenger.

The "socialist" payscale is ridiculous, and will never work in a capitalist society. It just creates frustration & overpaid rubbish players who are impossible to shift - Chamakh. Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci, Djourou (possibly), and Arshavin.

In what way is the payscale socialist?
 
Seems to be little in the way of incoming transfer news according to Jamie Sanderson of YoungGunsBlog. Wenger will buy "if we find someone". Not encouraging esp. with a very tough run of January fixtures. I don't know anymore.
 
In what way is the payscale socialist?

My opinion of the wages at Arsenal (and I have never seen any evidence to assume different) is that they handle them like any respectable company. The board establishes how many positions (stars, senior players, squad players etc...) that Wenger can have and the pay ranges that he can give them. It is then his job to allocate players to those positions and decide where in the pay range they fall, within an overal budget.

I have no evidence or tangible basis for this opinion except that this is the way most companies handle wages. Given how Arsenal conduct the rest of their business I see no reason why they would do anything other than what is considered normal and sensible in the rest of the corporate world.

I am not sure how this relates to socialism except that it does mean that all players in a category are considered equal.
 
Wenger himself says it's socialist in that they keep they try to have all of the players on very similar wages. If you're in the first team you're paid decent.

Man City for example reward their strikers & marketable stars with bumper deals. Man Utds first team will range from 20 or 30k for the newer players to 250 for Rooney & RvP etc.

Arsenal have almost all of their players in the 50 - 90 bracket. Too much for the youngsters so they're not able to move them on, too little for the top end stars so they can't keep them, in my humble opinion.