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What’s gonna happen

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  • Complete ****ing collapse

  • It’ll all be ok

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It's that painful listening to him trying to pronounce things and almost forgetting where he is, it's easier to listen to the opposition commentary
I always listen to the away commentary these days....the man is just a talentless oaf...as for people saying he's great for city and the area are clueless, i was in the Reading premier inn a couple of seasons ago and the aforementioned oaf was in the bar,calling absolute **** out of city and rosenior in particular..
 
I always listen to the away commentary these days....the man is just a talentless oaf...as for people saying he's great for city and the area are clueless, i was in the Reading premier inn a couple of seasons ago and the aforementioned oaf was in the bar,calling absolute **** out of city and rosenior in particular..

How dare he share an opinion.
 
I always listen to the away commentary these days....the man is just a talentless oaf...as for people saying he's great for city and the area are clueless, i was in the Reading premier inn a couple of seasons ago and the aforementioned oaf was in the bar,calling absolute **** out of city and rosenior in particular..
Great. It’s easy to make something up to suit your agenda.
 
We got relegated due to years of bad recruitment and being completely reliant on 2 players, which once they left, gave us an average L1 side.

The comparison with Selles is just plain stupid because Ruben's side cost £20m+ in transfer fees and the wage bill is around £25m. We spent £1.5m on getting Barry on loan for half a year and then spent £2m+ on Kyle Joseph. Ruben had a breeze of a job compared to Grant.

That's a bit of a rewrite of history...

On the 1st January we were 8th with 39 points (16 points away from relegation) so the squad was good enough on the whole to get to that position.

I acknowledge we lost our two best players in the transfer window and didn't replace them (Allam's fault), but as it turned out we'd only need 9 points from 20 games to stay up. Even a poor team could have managed that (and our defence was largely OK if we got up to 8th surely?)

We only got 6 more points from 20 games. That's at McCann's door for not changing enough about the side in the run in, you can't blame the Allams for that (even if they did give him poor tools to work with).

I compared it with Selles because he had a similarly unbalanced squad but concentrated on making us hard to beat. McCann failed at that and had a worse run, despite starting from a higher place in the division.
 
That's a bit of a rewrite of history...

On the 1st January we were 8th with 39 points (16 points away from relegation) so the squad was good enough on the whole to get to that position.

I acknowledge we lost our two best players in the transfer window and didn't replace them (Allam's fault), but as it turned out we'd only need 9 points from 20 games to stay up. Even a poor team could have managed that (and our defence was largely OK if we got up to 8th surely?)

We only got 6 more points from 20 games. That's at McCann's door for not changing enough about the side in the run in, you can't blame the Allams for that (even if they did give him poor tools to work with).

I compared it with Selles because he had a similarly unbalanced squad but concentrated on making us hard to beat. McCann failed at that and had a worse run, despite starting from a higher place in the division.

We majorly overperformed in the 1st half of the season and that became the stick to beat him with.

We crumbled as we know but it's easy to say change it when he had a defence of Burke, De Wijs, Pennington, McKenzie, Tafazoli and Elder. Unlike Ruben, he didn't have the luxury of bringing in a Egan, we didn't have the funds to do that.

We know players downed tools, we know we had the covid issues, also things like George Long going from being a decent keeper in the 1st half of the season to not being able to catch a cold in the 2nd has a major impact. When Jarrod was contributing almost a goal a game it breeds confidence and that evaporated overnight.

I still don't see what he could've changed, once that side had gone, they were completely gone and they gave up.

One thing that Grant undoubtedly learnt from that season was the need for leaders and strong characters in the dressing room as that's what we brought in plenty of the following summer and won the league. He did the same at Donny and won the league again.

In hindsight, the biggest error was not bringing in more characters/leaders in the window. That would've kept us up.
 
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I'm a bit in both camps on the 'relegation was inevitable' front. I do think we were trending that way and even in the summer McCann came in we were sourcing players predominantly from good League One clubs. Eaves, Honeyman, Magennis, Tafazolli, and Elder were our 'main' signings that summer, and while Elder came from Leicester he'd obviously plied his trade in League One. We were selling players or letting contracts run down without really replacing like for like. Largely down to a disastrous summer after relegation where we really had no idea what we were doing. The club needed a hard reset which the League One season (and COVID) allowed for. I do however agree that Bowen and Grosicki were performing at such a level that if we had invested smartly in that summer or even to start the January window (I mean wtf was Samuelsen, Wilks and Kane for a side on the cusp of the top 6??) we could well have pushed on for a top half finish even if we did sanction Bowen and Grosicki's departures.

It's clear at any level of football though that attack is often the best form of defence, and Bowen and Grosicki's ability to let us transition up the field rapidly put teams on the back foot and meant they couldn't over-commit against us. Once those two were gone, teams were able to dominate us, press us, and score bucket loads as a result, as it exposed how poor our defence really was.
 
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I'm a bit in both camps on the 'relegation was inevitable' front. I do think we were trending that way and even in the summer McCann came in we were sourcing players predominantly from good League One clubs. Eaves, Honeyman, Magennis, Tafazolli, and Elder were our 'main' signings that summer, and while Elder came from Leicester he'd obviously plied his trade in League One. We were selling players or letting contracts run down without really replacing like for like. Largely down to a disastrous summer after relegation where we really had no idea what we were doing. The club needed a hard reset which the League One season (and COVID) allowed for. I do however agree that Bowen and Grosicki were performing at such a level that if we had invested smartly in that summer or even to start the January window (I mean wtf was Samuelsen, Wilks and Kane for a side on the cusp of the top 6??) we could well have pushed on for a top half finish even if we did sanction Bowen and Grosicki's departures.

It's clear at any level of football though that attack is often the best form of defence, and Bowen and Grosicki's ability to let us transition up the field rapidly put teams on the back foot and meant they couldn't over-commit against us. Once those two were gone, teams were able to dominate us, press us, and score bucket loads as a result, as it exposed how poor our defence really was.

There's an argument that a hard reset of relegation would've benefitted us this year too. The relegation wage drops (assuming they're in there), would've brought the salaries of Giles, & Omur amongst others down drastically and probably enabled us to get rid of them permanently. It probably would've given us the fresh start of a new ownership too which I think we need.

There's also plenty of players within our squad, the likes of Kamara, Burstow and Joseph who could do with a spell in L1.
 
We majorly overperformed in the 1st half of the season and that became the stick to beat him with.

We crumbled as we know but it's easy to say change it when he had a defence of Burke, De Wijs, Pennington, McKenzie, Tafazoli and Elder. Unlike Ruben, he didn't have the luxury of bringing in a Egan, we didn't have the funds to do that.

We know players downed tools, we know we had the covid issues, also things like George Long going from being a decent keeper in the 1st half of the season to not being able to catch a cold in the 2nd has a major impact. When Jarrod was contributing almost a goal a game it breeds confidence and that evaporated overnight.

I still don't see what he could've changed, once that side had gone, they were completely gone and they gave up.

One thing that Grant undoubtedly learnt from that season was the need for leaders and strong characters in the dressing room as that's what we brought in plenty of the following summer and won the league. He did the same at Donny and won the league again.

In hindsight, the biggest error was not bringing in more characters/leaders in the window. That would've kept us up.

Come off it. 9 points from 20 ****ing games.

The 21s could have done that.
 
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Burnsy is popular in this area, because his daytime radio show was excellent and he's been a great advocate for local music and for the city generally.

I understand why some didn't like his commentary, but personally I put that down to Swanny, who was clearly hopeless.

Swanny wasn't a co-comm this past season. It became routine for Burns to apologise in advance for his commentary because it was 'also for audio only listeners' although why audio listeners need to know some of his bizarre anecdotes I have no idea. The fact he actually pre-empted the complaints says it all though.
 
Burnsy has always split opinion, I like him but I also like Parlour and Brazil on talksport as they spend more time talking about piss ups, then they do double pivots and XG , it’s just my preference , I don’t listen to pundits / commentators for that type of stuff , I prefer the stories , it’s just background noise and a bit of company as I work on my own a lot . I caught the last bit of the England / Sweden game other night and the co comm rather wisely pointed out in 93rd minute at 2-2 . The next goal would be decisive , Burnsy may never be that genius but I still like him
 
I think for a lot of people (and this might explain your lack of love for him Syd), Burnsy has been the voice of City for decades.

He's literally been there on the radio build up before every home game (up until the last few years) since I started going 27 years ago, so is intrinsically linked to the match day experience.

That explains my fondness anyway!
 
We majorly overperformed in the 1st half of the season and that became the stick to beat him with.

We crumbled as we know but it's easy to say change it when he had a defence of Burke, De Wijs, Pennington, McKenzie, Tafazoli and Elder. Unlike Ruben, he didn't have the luxury of bringing in a Egan, we didn't have the funds to do that.

We know players downed tools, we know we had the covid issues, also things like George Long going from being a decent keeper in the 1st half of the season to not being able to catch a cold in the 2nd has a major impact. When Jarrod was contributing almost a goal a game it breeds confidence and that evaporated overnight.

I still don't see what he could've changed, once that side had gone, they were completely gone and they gave up.

One thing that Grant undoubtedly learnt from that season was the need for leaders and strong characters in the dressing room as that's what we brought in plenty of the following summer and won the league. He did the same at Donny and won the league again.

In hindsight, the biggest error was not bringing in more characters/leaders in the window. That would've kept us up.

When I say change things I clearly don’t mean the players as he was hamstrung by the squad he had - but we rarely changed formation and I remember going to games (pre Covid obviously) and thinking ‘we’re doing the same thing over and over and it’s not working’. 3 of the 4 defenders you mentioned (Burke, De Wijs, Elder) have all played at decent levels since - two in better Championship sides than this one.

The problem for Grant was - the maths didn’t add up. The worst ever Championship points per game is 0.5 over a full season. Over 20 games our PPG was 0.3. That’s a decent sample size. We only needed 0.45 to stay up. I don’t believe that side was the worst ever on paper, but it was playing like it. You mention players downed tools. I think you are right but players in sides with more problems then ours at the time managed better form than we did. It was Grant’s job to manage that and he failed miserably.

Did a cracking job to bounce back from that to be fair. It’s one of the things Ehab got right and I was wrong about. I’d have sacked him immediately after Wigan.
 
There were a number of times I opted to watch our away games on the other teams iFollow last year as I got fed up of burns waffling on incessantly, I get that he's doing it for radio as well and that means he has to fill more air time but some stuff he talks about is tiresome. He benefitted from being a co com and not having to speak all the time for me.
 
There were a number of times I opted to watch our away games on the other teams iFollow last year as I got fed up of burns waffling on incessantly, I get that he's doing it for radio as well and that means he has to fill more air time but some stuff he talks about is tiresome. He benefitted from being a co com and not having to speak all the time for me.
He had a co comm so he didn’t have to talk about football mate
He doesn’t want to
He hated it whenever swanny was off and he had a proper football man with him
Cos he couldn’t talk about pies or nights out
That’s why it’s just constant drivel now