Transfer Embargo

[balkan tiger]

What we do know currently is that we are in a fee restriction. The fact of that is that well ran clubs don’t even dare run the risk of being at the behest of an EFL punishment.

What I also know as Syd has pointed out is that AcunsBurnerAccount has been quick to knock down any concerns be they genuine or OTT. I take no joy in what the club is going through and I find it harsh to suggest I would. I got annoyed at him because he went “Yawn” at a post of mine where I expressed genuine concerns on facts we did know.

Whatever happens after this. Acun has likely damaged the reputation of the club even if the restriction is lifted. It will weigh into negotiations with players who are choosing between us and say a Preston or Charlton. In the same way overreacting to this situation isn’t needed underplaying it and not acknowledging it for what it is, is just as damaging as it’s constantly waiting for his PR spin to become fact.

I said it once and I’ll say it again, good clubs don’t get transfer restrictions. FACT

And yet Shelvey who may not be the player he once was but would still be a good old head to put in most of the championship teams has chosen to come and train with us, a club who is prohibited from buying players and paying late the players we do have.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

If they are facts! Let’s have them then.Just hearsay!
List them in detail if you know them to be factual.
No doubt this week will bring some clarity from Acun and the Club. The supporters don’t deserve all this speculation and nonsense.

Agree. But, it's some 'supporters' who are fuelling the "speculation and nonsense"! (and some parts of the media for their clicks)

 

[Kalman II]

And yet Shelvey who may not be the player he once was but would still be a good old head to put in most of the championship teams has chosen to come and train with us, a club who is prohibited from buying players and paying late the players we do have.

He started training before the fee restriction was announced. Also, he’s ****e and nobody else would have him.

 

[balkan tiger]

He started training before the fee restriction was announced. Also, he’s ****e and nobody else would have him.

I guess he's a free agent so he could have said **** this I'm off.
I bet he ends up playing for someone next season.

 

[Steven Toast]

And yet Shelvey who may not be the player he once was but would still be a good old head to put in most of the championship teams has chosen to come and train with us, a club who is prohibited from buying players and paying late the players we do have.

The fans kicked off something chronic because Acun wanted Emre, a semi successful manager in Turkey who got done for racism big time, as our gaffer.

Shelvey, while still reasonably talented and unarguably experienced, also got done for racism toward Roman Saiss.

So, no thanks. Shelve Shelvey. John Swift and Enis Bardhi are both available on free transfers, both are younger and more mobile. Oh, and neither have been done for being a racist ****.

 

[balkan tiger]

The fans kicked off something chronic because Acun wanted Emre, a semi successful manager in Turkey who got done for racism big time, as our gaffer.

Shelvey, while still reasonably talented and unarguably experienced, also got done for racism toward Roman Saiss.

So, no thanks. Shelve Shelvey. John Swift and Enis Bardhi are both available on free transfers, both are younger and more mobile. Oh, and neither have been done for being a racist ****.

Just in case anyone is wondering what it's all about.

After appealing the initial charge in November, Shelvey was found guilty by an Independent Regulatory Commission; he called the Moroccan player a “smelly Arab”. He’s also been slapped with a £100,000 fine and ordered to attend an educational course on diversity.

Shelvey’s ban is longer than the one handed to former England captain John Terry, who was banned for four matches after an FA inquiry in 2012 found him guilty of calling Anton Ferdinand a “black c**t” –

 

[Kalman II]

I guess he's a free agent so he could have said **** this I'm off.
I bet he ends up playing for someone next season.

Don’t get my hopes up.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Reading comprehension AND boot licking in the same sentence here. Didn't expect to get a double on my 'cliche 606 playground ****' bingo card in one short post.

I've not said anything about this situation yet. I'm waiting for the actual facts to come out first, and want to see what happens next before I cast judgement... If we're allowed to do that? On the matter at hand, does it look good? No. Do we know the details yet? No. Are we ****ed? I hope not, but right now we don't know.

This thread is a nightmare to keep up with though. You've got some people trying to stay calm and waiting to see what happens (fair enough), some people trying to make heads or tails of what's going on (fair enough), some people attempting the latter, but adding stuff they've made up, or are guessing at (a little bit weird) and some people wading in with the 'I told you so's' and genuinely loving the situation regardless of denying that they apparently don't (really weird).

You ask ' are we ****ed?' I'd say if we cannot pay a transfer fee for a player until January 2027, then the answer is yes. That we do know. If Acun didn't know we were not paying bills and owed money when he chaired the Q@A session last Monday then something is drastically wrong at the club or he was lying. I'd guess the phone call he took half way through, just after a member of the audience had said 'The Athletic 'had announced we had signed Louie Barry, was someone telling him about the EFL transfer embargo. It is gross mismanagement on behalf of the club. The warning signs were switched on some time ago for me simply because I have seen them several times at City and the outcome is never good. We need clarification and we need it quickly. Also the truth might help too.

 

[Idi Amin]

I am not saying anything not already said...but its really really poor management from the club to allow this to happen.

Let's say to finances are fine, and acun has a pot of gold like scrooge mcduck to dive into...Why are we running our football club finances with IOUs with your mate at another club.

Its poor to think this would fly (with the EFL or whoever), and why does the club not know this or have someone who should know this.

 

[tigermaul]

Not sure about that.

What we know so far:

Missed Barry loan payment
Haven’t paid Blackpool for Joseph
Other missed payments to football creditors
Wages have been paid late
Small local companies haven’t been paid
Acun hates kittens and puppies

These are facts. What we don’t know yet is the extent of just how bad some of these things are.

You've left out my fact that he rides motorcycles without a helmet. I feel quite upset.

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

I am not saying anything not already said...but its really really poor management from the club to allow this to happen.

Let's say to finances are fine, and acun has a pot of gold like scrooge mcduck to dive into...Why are we running our football club finances with IOUs with your mate at another club.

Its poor to think this would fly (with the EFL or whoever), and why does the club not know this or have someone who should know this.

And maybe its a fault of the system that allows a club, any club to pay on tick... its hard to comprehend the a Premrier league team can buy someone form a lesser team on the never never.

 

[Wildie]

It isn't just football clubs we owe money to. If there is a full audit, then it will show money owed to local removal companies that are months unpaid, or even a late/unpaid payment for the heat lamps for the pitch. It is more than just transfer fees

 

[tigermaul]

It isn't just football clubs we owe money to. If there is a full audit, then it will show money owed to local removal companies that are months unpaid, or even a late/unpaid payment for the heat lamps for the pitch. It is more than just transfer fees

So actually, despite people defending him, we are not so very far from a Sheffield Wednesday or Reading situation. The difference being that when they lurched into crisis, these two clubs owned their own grounds. What assets do we actually have, other than several overpaid and not very good players who can't even muster a goal in a friendly against Lincoln City?

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

So actually, despite people defending him, we are not so very far from a Sheffield Wednesday or Reading situation. The difference being that when they lurched into crisis, these two clubs owned their own grounds. What assets do we actually have, other than several overpaid and not very good players who can't even muster a goal in a friendly against Lincoln City?

Fire sale coming ?

 

[Gone For A Walk]

It isn't just football clubs we owe money to. If there is a full audit, then it will show money owed to local removal companies that are months unpaid, or even a late/unpaid payment for the heat lamps for the pitch. It is more than just transfer fees

How do you know this to be the case?
Simple question.

 

[BeardyBob]

It isn't just football clubs we owe money to. If there is a full audit, then it will show money owed to local removal companies that are months unpaid, or even a late/unpaid payment for the heat lamps for the pitch. It is more than just transfer fees

You could help stop all this frantic speculation if you provided proof. Otherwise why should we believe you?

 

[rovertiger]

I was all for Shelvey coming here, i've said it on this thread and on the boards in the past. The only thing wrong is, I didn't know he was a racist **** so he can **** right off.

 

[Benjo]

Where’s your proof that some posters want the club to fail and are enjoying this?

I'd hazard a guess that you alone account for around 30% of the posts in this thread, which tells me you're either a glutton for punishment or things are as i think they are... And to be specific, I think you want Acun to fail, not the club, but unfortunately though they go hand in hand.

 

[jhe10]

It isn't just football clubs we owe money to. If there is a full audit, then it will show money owed to local removal companies that are months unpaid, or even a late/unpaid payment for the heat lamps for the pitch. It is more than just transfer fees

If this is true, and it sounds a bit specific to be just rumours, then I'd guess that it wouldn't be part of the EFL case since isn't that just going to be debts that are specifically football related i.e. to other clubs/players? Doesn't mean it's not bad, stiffing small local companies is the action of a tosspot. Anyway, jury is still out in the absence of concrete evidence, at the moment all we know is they've been guilty of gross incompetence.

 

[Drew]

If this is true, and it sounds a bit specific to be just rumours, then I'd guess that it wouldn't be part of the EFL case since isn't that just going to be debts that are specifically football related i.e. to other clubs/players? Doesn't mean it's not bad, stiffing small local companies is the action of a tosspot. Anyway, jury is still out in the absence of concrete evidence, at the moment all we know is they've been guilty of gross incompetence.

Yeah, if true I’ll be very very annoyed.

The club should be helping local companies not hindering them. That’s a bigger issue than stiffing someone like Villa for me.