Tottenham in the Summer Transfer window - 2013 edition!
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You haven't got a scooby doo have ya! Why are players duty bound to inform people like you via the bloody press what they're doing. Players are under legally binding contracts, and are prevented from speaking until matters are closed. If you'd paid any attention to the positive comments instead of your constant doom mongering, you would know all Spurs staff from the bog cleaner to Baldini, have been told by Levy "no media comment"...do you understand that? that means no interviews, no twitter, no **** all.
Please name one high profile player anywhere that has blabbed his way through his transfer?...what did Soldado say in Spain when asked about coming here "don't know, I'll speak when I can as I always do". You used Kinnear speaking about Bent as a comparison!
...."hello, footballing world to Tottenham Jamspurs", nobody gives a **** where Darren Bent goes! So, the only 'deluded' person round here would seem to be you. On that note, its the second time you've labelled the other half of the debate that disagrees with you in a disparaging manner. NSIS (posters that have been here ages will know who that is) pulled you the other day for exactly the same thing, so it would appear you haven't learnt. If you want to get on here I'd suggest you don't go ruffling feathers, being preached too, because thats what your comments have become rather than an opinion, is becoming a little tedious.
You haven't got a scooby doo have ya! Why are players duty bound to inform people like you via the bloody press what they're doing. Players are under legally binding contracts, and are prevented from speaking until matters are closed. If you'd paid any attention to the positive comments instead of your constant doom mongering, you would know all Spurs staff from the bog cleaner to Baldini, have been told by Levy "no media comment"...do you understand that? that means no interviews, no twitter, no **** all.
Please name one high profile player anywhere that has blabbed his way through his transfer?...what did Soldado say in Spain when asked about coming here "don't know, I'll speak when I can as I always do". You used Kinnear speaking about Bent as a comparison!
On that note, its the second time you've labelled the other half of the debate that disagrees with you in a disparaging manner. NSIS (posters that have been here ages will know who that is) pulled you the other day for exactly the same thing, so it would appear you haven't learnt. If you want to get on here I'd suggest you don't go ruffling feathers, being preached too, because thats what your comments have become rather than an opinion, is becoming a little tedious.
My doom mongering?! If anything I've been one of the only people on here that isn't slitting my wrists over Bale or our pre-season and trying to explain to people why they don't need to be so pessimistic!!
It's "disparaging" to call people deluded for thinking Bale wants to stay but when others start laying into people for believing that Bale wants to leave its fine
If you are referring to my discussion with SoS, he gave as good as he got with sarcastic comments etc and I apologised to him? But whatever I'll just **** off away from the Bale discussions and leave everyone to their "world is ending, the apocalypse is nigh" discussions and stick to talking about other players.
Then the agent needs to get him to sign our new contract. 10% of £150k pw should be enough for a nest egg?
Just seen this on spurs community.
"Update from conversation I had yesterday.
Bale is not for sale unless Tottenham receive a ridiculous offer. The money offered, and quoted in the press, even though a world record, is not deemed ridiculous by the spurs board. Tottenham have told Madrid this. There are no current negotiations and no current contact between the clubs.
Tottenham feel they must be compensated for the commercial outlay and immediate loss of earnings if Bale goes. This would mean an offer significantly north of £80 million.
The payment structure that was written in the press is rubbish. No fee has been agreed; so talk of payment structure is very wide of the mark; no negotiations are taking place.
Regarding the player swap, the Portuguese left back, Tottenham donât want it involved in the Bale transfer and hereâs why.
I have already mentioned that AVB was offered Luke Shaw as a potential target and AVB refused.
The Portuguese left back, was a target before the Madrid/Bale saga. Tottenham were quoted a price and wanted to discuss terms. Then the Bale saga kicked off and Madrid decided to negotiate at a higher price.
On Bale.
He has not refused to train. He has been working on his fitness.
It was AVBâs decision not to play him on tour.
He wanted to stay at Tottenham and asked his agent to negotiate a deal for next year.
Real Madrid said to him itâs now or never. He would be happy to stay for another year.
He doesnt feel he is ready to move.
Itâs difficult for him and not fair to question or to slag off his character.
So itâs going to take an amazing offer to get him.
Other news.
There are offers on the table for Sigurðsson and Adebayor.
And more of opinion than anything else, but from what Iâve heard Tottenham will go back for the Brazilian kid.
"Update from conversation I had yesterday.
Bale is not for sale unless Tottenham receive a ridiculous offer. The money offered, and quoted in the press, even though a world record, is not deemed ridiculous by the spurs board. Tottenham have told Madrid this. There are no current negotiations and no current contact between the clubs.
Tottenham feel they must be compensated for the commercial outlay and immediate loss of earnings if Bale goes. This would mean an offer significantly north of £80 million.
The payment structure that was written in the press is rubbish. No fee has been agreed; so talk of payment structure is very wide of the mark; no negotiations are taking place.
Regarding the player swap, the Portuguese left back, Tottenham donât want it involved in the Bale transfer and hereâs why.
I have already mentioned that AVB was offered Luke Shaw as a potential target and AVB refused.
The Portuguese left back, was a target before the Madrid/Bale saga. Tottenham were quoted a price and wanted to discuss terms. Then the Bale saga kicked off and Madrid decided to negotiate at a higher price.
On Bale.
He has not refused to train. He has been working on his fitness.
It was AVBâs decision not to play him on tour.
He wanted to stay at Tottenham and asked his agent to negotiate a deal for next year.
Real Madrid said to him itâs now or never. He would be happy to stay for another year.
He doesnt feel he is ready to move.
Itâs difficult for him and not fair to question or to slag off his character.
So itâs going to take an amazing offer to get him.
Other news.
There are offers on the table for Sigurðsson and Adebayor.
And more of opinion than anything else, but from what Iâve heard Tottenham will go back for the Brazilian kid.
You haven't got a scooby doo have ya! Why are players duty bound to inform people like you via the bloody press what they're doing. Players are under legally binding contracts, and are prevented from speaking until matters are closed. If you'd paid any attention to the positive comments instead of your constant doom mongering, you would know all Spurs staff from the bog cleaner to Baldini, have been told by Levy "no media comment"...do you understand that? that means no interviews, no twitter, no **** all.
Please name one high profile player anywhere that has blabbed his way through his transfer?...what did Soldado say in Spain when asked about coming here "don't know, I'll speak when I can as I always do". You used Kinnear speaking about Bent as a comparison!
On that note, its the second time you've labelled the other half of the debate that disagrees with you in a disparaging manner. NSIS (posters that have been here ages will know who that is) pulled you the other day for exactly the same thing, so it would appear you haven't learnt. If you want to get on here I'd suggest you don't go ruffling feathers, being preached too, because thats what your comments have become rather than an opinion, is becoming a little tedious.
What's up with you notso! had a bad night?
I think you're being a bit harsh. I agree with your point absolutely about players not being able to talk, but TJ is not alone in calling for Bale to speak out. I have made the same point as you a couple of times, in fact I said we wont be hearing anything from Bale until this is all finalised. This whole Bale saga will not go away until once again he pulls on the shirt and runs out for us.
Let's have a look at one of these 'news' stories on Bale. This one from the Telegraph this morning.
Acceptance? by who! the media that's who. Levy has hardened his position? Has he! Not for sale is the position he has taken and stuck to. The only hardening is the ability of the media to sell their story.
Oh! did they, says who? Not Spurs it must be the media again.
Implying that he was not happy to play. Whereas AVB said the Spurs medics scanned Bales foot and declared him unfit to play. Spin again!
Bale asked this Bale said that! Did he! Just more made up bullshit.
Has he? according to who! This just harks back to an interview a year or so ago when answered a question about playing abroad. To which he was hardly likely to say Oh! I never want to play abroad is he, few players would say that would they. More Bullshit.
Anyway you get the gist the whole article is concoction of a few quotes and a large amount of 'creative' writing just like all the rest of the reporting of this saga.
The only quote that matters is AVB's 'Bale is not for sale' but not much of a story is it.
Acceptance? by who! the media that's who. Levy has hardened his position? Has he! Not for sale is the position he has taken and stuck to. The only hardening is the ability of the media to sell their story.
Oh! did they, says who? Not Spurs it must be the media again.
Implying that he was not happy to play. Whereas AVB said the Spurs medics scanned Bales foot and declared him unfit to play. Spin again!
Bale asked this Bale said that! Did he! Just more made up bullshit.
Has he? according to who! This just harks back to an interview a year or so ago when answered a question about playing abroad. To which he was hardly likely to say Oh! I never want to play abroad is he, few players would say that would they. More Bullshit.
Anyway you get the gist the whole article is concoction of a few quotes and a large amount of 'creative' writing just like all the rest of the reporting of this saga.
The only quote that matters is AVB's 'Bale is not for sale' but not much of a story is it.
Take a chill pill lads, I noticed with some satisfaction this morning that there isn't much about GB in the reports- could be fallout from AVB's rant yesterday.
More about that average Utd lad going to some other London club is what they are all printing,funnily enough the writing style is almost the same.
More about that average Utd lad going to some other London club is what they are all printing,funnily enough the writing style is almost the same.
Good morn!
Interesting. I don't really see the need for MORE midfielders unless Bale is off. I guess this is to replace Gylfi?
I don't suppose Bernard doubles as a world class centre back does he?
We'll have to play 3-6-1 at this rate.
I dunno spurm.
We've lost dempsey, who occupied one of the "forward" (wide attacking mid) positions last season and he's already left. if the rumours are true about sig (bearing in mind he nearly left in jan aswell) I am understanding AVB's thinking here.
Last season we saw a lot of frustrating moments with the likes of Sig and Dempsey for a long time where they were just too slow on the ball. At times, their first touches were poor and they were dispossessed or made a bad final ball. Both were playing slightly out of position which didn't help either and made them look weaker. - (again, another discussion altogether about quality over quantity and having the right skill attributes in the correct position).
Anyway, I think AVB has a type of player for that position which he knows need a few certain attributes in order to make his formation work. It requires players who are slick, pacey and precise. IMO, this is why for so long last year so many people said things like "x person isn't a spurs type of player". Although Sig looked good at the end and Dempsey got some important goals, they never looked comfortable IMO.
It wouldnt surprise me if AVB and levy together are deciding to make a few bold moves where we can get good money, and will replace those players with ones who are more suited to their specific position.
Demps out - Chadli in
Sig out - Bernard in
The only thing that is a bit weird, is that there's still a lot of dead wood hogging the wages, who we all thought would have been a priority to shift.
However, with chadli, a more natural winger than dempsey costing just £1m more, and being years younger, it was a sensible move.
In Jan, Reading offered 12 mill for Sig. If we can get that sort of money for him again, bernard at £21m won't be too costly for someone who is highly rated.
It's these little upgrades that can make all the difference, and financially it's not going to cripple us. - Especially when there's a good chance the dead wood will be off. - Even if it is later rather than sooner, at least we know there's interest.
has he? then the F did that happen?
Edit: don't think he has...
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/bernard/profil/spieler_175169.html
I did catch the Talk%hite "news" at 9am today and it was noticeable that Bale was not part of the sports news. Of course Brazil was quick to "sell him" shortly after the news saying Spurs should take the money regardless of how it is paid etc, but it wasn't part of the main news. Are they winding down a bit on the story in case they are wrong, knowing how short memory the public have.
And bravo for Spurf's earlier dissection of the Telegraph article, again very little substance and in some ways reporting on other stories rather than what should be the subject of the story. It's taken on a life of it's own, "it is alive!"
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...o-accept-bid-shakhtar-donetsk-bernard?cc=5739
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/31/arsen...22m-shakhtar-donetsk-bid-for-bernard-3905634/
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/418544/Shakhtar-have-bid-accepted-for-Arsenal-target-Bernard
I think he must be negotiationg personal terms atm, as these reports are a few days old
