Tonali vs Guimareas vs Anderson

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No27 said:
The op was to highlight the fact he's easily as good as them and the numbers don't lie.

People are quick to dismiss it, but they really need to open their eyes tbh.

Oh well each to their own.
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But he’s not. It’s as simple as that.

No one is saying he’s not a good player. But he’s not done anything to prove he is an elite player.

There is a reason for the expression “lies, dammed lies and statistics “. Statistics can and are used to manipulate certain information to demonstrate a particular point. Also depends upon over what period the statistics are drawn. The shorter the period the less reliable are the assumptions drawn from the statistics. Noticeable that your statistics are over a very short period. Even then Anderson’s statistics do not demonstrate an elite player.

I’m pleased he’s done well since he left but he wasn’t getting into our midfield first choice then and he wouldn’t be even now. Would I want him back? That would depend on price but so long as it wasn’t silly money, I would say yes. He’s better than Willock and Ramsay and would enable our first choice three a chance to rotate and rest.

And your claim that he’s just 23 yo really doesn’t impress. If you’re looking for impressive from our ranks then look at Gazza who was impressing at the age of 17 yo never mind 23 yo and Gazza was an elite player by the time he was 21 yo and was starring (not just appearing) in the 1990 World Cup Finals at the age of 23 yo.

Find me one other person worth listening to to back up the claim that Anderson is as good as Tonali never mind better. And I don’t mean for one or two games I mean is as good as.
 
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Rum & Black for 2 said:
But he’s not. It’s as simple as that.

No one is saying he’s not a good player. But he’s not done anything to prove he is an elite player.

There is a reason for the expression “lies, darned lies and statistics “. Statistics can and are used to manipulate certain information to demonstrate a particular point. Also depends upon over what period the statistics are drawn. The shorter the period the less reliable are the assumptions drawn from the statistics. Noticeable that your statistics are over a very short period. Even then Anderson’s statistics do not demonstrate an elite player.

I’m pleased he’s done well since he left but he wasn’t getting into our midfield first choice then and he wouldn’t be even now. Would I want him back? That would depend on price but so long as it wasn’t silly money, I would say yes. He’s better than Willock and Ramsay and would enable our first choice three a chance to rotate and rest.

And your claim that he’s just 23 yo really doesn’t impress. If you’re looking for impressive from our ranks then look at Gazza who was impressing at the age of 17 yo never mind 23 yo and Gazza was an elite player by the time he was 21 yo and was starring (not just appearing) in the 1990 World Cup Finals at the age of 23 yo.

Find me one other person worth listening to to back up the claim that Anderson is as good as Tonali never mind better. And I don’t mean for one or two games I mean is as good as.
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Anderson is a good player. He’s not elite. Yet.

But he’s 23 and is developing well.

It’s just a shame it’s not under howe.
 
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Rum & Black for 2 said:
Agreed.

If only somebody hadn’t messed up with the psr at the time.
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It's not really just that tbh, he wanted first team football and he got that with Forest, and I'm glad he's got it and improved.

If he'd stayed here it would have been like Steve Harper, great player who could have achieved so much more.
 
What does everyone think of this "Gazza" lad at Spurs? I think think he could become great. Hope we sign him.
 
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Obi Wan said:
That bloody Howe has a lot to answer for!!
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Howes not got many faults so far, but he doesn't seem to identify youth and play them. I suspect it's not that he doesn't actually identify them though , and just that he favours his signings.
 
No27 said:
Wasn't good enough to get in ahead of Bracewell
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Is this the Paul Bracewell who didn’t play for Newcastle at any time that Gazza was at Newcastle? Or is it the Paul Bracewell who played only 3 times for England all in 1985 when Gazza was 18 yo and just starting at Newcastle?
 
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Donald Trump, who is also someone you hold in high esteem advocated injecting yourself with disinfectant to stave off covid. So please forgive me if I'm a touch sceptical about certain stats and quotes that are being used to support your love of Anderson.
 
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jimileysbaldhead said:
Donald Trump, who is also someone you hold in high esteem advocated injection yourself with disinfectant to stave off covid. So please forgive me if I'm a touch sceptical about certain stats and quotes that are being used to support your love of Anderson.
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I think Chaos actually took some of that disinfectant.
 
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