Tired of Adams
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nope - i missed wolves and ipswich away (saw both on tv) and fulham away (saw a feed), listened to the blackpool game.
Your Mrs must be a very patient woman , when we had our first child i was on lockdown for the first year.
No way would i be allowed to swan off to Nottingham or Middlesboro ,you have a good one there lad.
No way would i be allowed to swan off to Nottingham or Middlesboro ,you have a good one there lad.
Your Mrs must be a very patient woman , when we had our first child i was on lockdown for the first year.
No way would i be allowed to swan off to Nottingham or Middlesboro ,you have a good one there lad.
she's used to me being away a lot. i was at the boro game with her folks. if you think i'm angry about adams being in charge you should hear her mum! she's apoplectic!!
Sorry if it sounds arrogant but that is my opinion. In the same way it would be a disgrace if Chelsea failed to qualify for Europe despite the strength of their squad. (Not saying our squad is like Chelsea's of course just that I feel we both have the strongest squads in our respective leagues)
I've not been to as many games as you this season, clearly, however I was at the Brentford match but must have been watching a different one if you really think we were "completely played off the park".
What utter nonsense, talk about exaggerating to prove a point, dear me!
Sounds like you are desperate to convince us all that Adams is so definitely the wrong man, which is really unlike you and I'm not quite sure why you have convinced yourself so absolutely. It definitely seems like you have had an agenda against Adams from day one, and I don't really understand why, possibly because your sheer faith in Hootun last season turned out to be unfounded? I know that almost certainly isn't the case, it would be ridiculous and I'm sure you're far better than that but I do struggle to see why you are so certain that he's the wrong guy after just three months - most of which we have been in the top three in the division.
Just seems crazy to me, don't get it.
What utter nonsense, talk about exaggerating to prove a point, dear me!
Sounds like you are desperate to convince us all that Adams is so definitely the wrong man, which is really unlike you and I'm not quite sure why you have convinced yourself so absolutely. It definitely seems like you have had an agenda against Adams from day one, and I don't really understand why, possibly because your sheer faith in Hootun last season turned out to be unfounded? I know that almost certainly isn't the case, it would be ridiculous and I'm sure you're far better than that but I do struggle to see why you are so certain that he's the wrong guy after just three months - most of which we have been in the top three in the division.
Just seems crazy to me, don't get it.
I agree with the sentiment but I don't think now is the time to judge. If things haven't improved by Christmas then I believe the Club should and possibly will take action.
Two teams above us with much weaker squads; Brentford and Ipswich. Going back to the Chelsea metaphor, us being below Brentford in our league table is like Chelsea being below Burnley in the PL table with only the relative strengths of the squads on paper considered. My final point; it's all well and good saying that financial superiority doesn't guarantee results in this division and that we shouldn't expect to stroll through but... ...I think the Club's directors expect promotion otherwise they wouldn't have authorised the spending. I think the players expect promotion otherwise Ruddy, Tettey and Olsson would have joined other clubs. Why shouldn't the fans expect promotion when it's been publicly documented that it's our target?
As a Norwich fan i always hope to do well but after 30 years of ups and downs i never expect success.
Teams like Man U and Liverpool expect success and have way more spending power and you could buy our entire squad for one of their misfiring superstars.
DM we are not and will never be anywhere near Chelsea yet our current manager managed to hold them to a draw last season so bad example.
Teams like Man U and Liverpool expect success and have way more spending power and you could buy our entire squad for one of their misfiring superstars.
DM we are not and will never be anywhere near Chelsea yet our current manager managed to hold them to a draw last season so bad example.
I'm afraid I'm completely with Munky on this one Supers. I've always found you to be measured and balanced in your opinions. Whilst I haven't always agreed with you, I've usually found at least I can see where you're coming from. In fact, I'd go so far as to say for the majority of your recent posts I still do.
But when it comes to Adams you seem to have some sort of quite extraordinary and out-of-character reaction. Maybe you know something I don't. But from the outside looking in, I'd say it is very much out of sorts and, dare I say it, irrational (though I appreciate that rationality requires context).
I have to say that the Brentford game seemed quite even, but they seemed to pose more of a threat and were able to nullify very pedestrian attacking. it was a game where that speedy winger Wes was demonstrating blistering pace- oh hang on I may have got that last bit wrong. I do however agree that it was a lack lustre performance and the crowd was very quiet.
I think it will turn too. I thought there were signs it might at Forest, when Howson and others came to applaud the City fans after the game, looking across there were a number of city fans venting and gesticulating like someone had just nicked there nans purse. Hughton is undoubtedly in part responsible (Or the board for their in action) for the shortness of patience now being experienced.
For what it's worth, I didn't think he (Adams) was the right man when he was appointed and I was with the majority then. During the early good times I was pleased but still unconvinced because of a number of issues, e.g. continual slow starts and conseding first. And I don't take any pleasure in saying I generally agree with Supers that Adams isn't and won't be up to the job anytime soon. (Don't mean unhappy to agree with supers, unhappy at the fact I can't with my head see Adams being a success)
Like everyone but Carrabuh and some binners, I thought Hughton was the right man when he was recruited, early results were troubling then but because he appeared to have had success and experience elsewhere I held that belief longer. Don't get me wrong I was still one of the earlier Hughton outers when following the 10 game run a sustained spell of dire performances and poor results, but there in lays my rather long winded point. I thought Hughton was the best man we could get for the job and inspite of a quite brilliant run of results, performances and then subsequent results changed my mind reasonably quickly. It's about showing some degree of progress, even if the results are poor, is there a plan? can I see the manager is getting the most out of players? Hughton had one plan that wasn't working and was damned ugly, he had to go. Fast forward to Mr Adams, I like a number of others never thought he was right for the job, there seems little or no plan, was it luck that we started so well? I don't think entirely and credit where it was due he for a short time had a way of gettng us winning and playing resonably well for 45 mins/game. My problem is that since other managers have watched those early games we have been all to easily neutered. The players seem to lack conviction, that second half against Forest, from the minute the pattern of play was established was crying out for a change to alter the flow, that we held out till the 85minute was the surprise as you watched it unfold not that we lost.
So the guy I thought "what really, you're appointing the cheap and to my mind very wrong option" got the gig, well coupled with the far too lengthy death of the Hughton regime, I think it's natural for me, Supers and others to already feel that a mistake has been made.
Sorry I've been distracted a couple of times mid post and ambled a little. Essense is:
If I thought Hughton was the right man and that he got far to long, then Adams who I thought was definitely the wrong man probably needs to do a bit more than 2 wins in the last ten for me to reform that thought.
Whilst the longer we leave it, if we assume he will fail, the less our chances get on promotion, he should still get a little more time, how much will be dependent on the next few performances and ultimately results. But having foolishly given him a 4 year contract I would think he'll get till at least Xmas, but I think McNally will be thinking that with our resources "Mid-table will be worse than death!"
Bah!
Jesus that was heavy reading, it reads like a man falling asleep in his chair with a large Cognac.
You just needed to write . I agree
with supers
I'm sure we have £10k left to invest in January and try to emulate our soap dodging cousins down the road ?