Time for realism

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YorkshireHoopster

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I am not a manic depressive. I find that the way to avoid mood swings between total despair and insane optimism is to look at the task ahead with realism and set achievable targets. We have only a weak chance of staying up now. Before the Newcastle game, I had thought that all 8 matches through to Bolton away were winnable and needed to be won more often than not. Since then we have beaten Wigan and drawn with Villa and lost the rest each by the odd goal. In each of the defeats we have played well in patches and should have picked up all 3 points. Last season we would have done. Simply because we played with a belief that we would win and never stopped trying. Sadly our last 8 games are a complete nightmare and so while my heart hopes for a miracle, my head tells me that the damage has already been done.

The immediate task is to rebuild team spirit and morale. Those who do not want to pull together should be relegated to the subs bench and reserve team immediately. Those willing to roll up their sleeves for the fight ahead should be given every encouragement even if we end up 3-0 down in future games. Some of them may be (are clearly?) not good enough in the long haul. However provided they all give the same commitment to their team mates and to us for the remainder of the season, I for one will be grateful. If, by a miracle we do stay up that's great. However the emphasis for me has to be on laying down the foundations now for a successful return to the top flight next season.

That means stability throughout the club, and a team that plays together consistently from here on in. And no I don't want to see that newly found morale destroyed in the close season by another spending spree. The players we now have should be good enough. I for one would impose a "one in one out" rule for transfers in the summer.
 
So you have given up all hope then? The players we have brought are to keep us in the Prem. If we go down then players like Barton, SWP. Diakite, Taiwo etc etc will not be with us for too long. As of now we are still out of the relegation zone. We have two weeks to get our act together. I expect to see strong team performances from now on. Keep the faith.
 
All the time you are a supporter live up to the word supporter Our third team of the season has to mesh ... Yes it's a gamble but I have yet to meet anyone who knows what is going to happen

I suggest and promote the optimistic option as the other one means theres little point at doing or believing anything ... Get to that point Brother and you may as well join me in the cuckoo factory ...that puts things into perspective

QPR are staying up
 
The time for your type of realism is WHEN we are down. Until then we are putting all our efforts into staying up, three points on Saturday week will be a good positive start to QPR STAYING UP, keep repeating it, QPR STAYING UP...
 
We are staying up.....we ARE NOT in the the THREE WORST TEAMS
We are about the 5th or 6th worst team THIS year
Come on you Rss
 
If you don't swing from total despair to insane optimism you're not a real supporter are you, Legal Eagle? This has nothing to do with rationality it's about support. Think less, believe more!
 
Glad to see I've managed to ruffle a few feathers! I take it the silent majority either agree with me or are too apathetic to respond. I'll be there till the bitter end fear not and I will cheer the team on even in the darkest days. What I won't do is declare my undying support for the club and then spend the rest of my time wishing for a new team, new manager, new owners while sniping at those we've got and letting everyone else read about it. I will not boo the team off when they've played abysmally as many of you did at Blackburn on Saturday at half time. Yes yes. You are entitled to your opinions. I've heard it all before. You may feel a lot better for sharing your negativity with the rest of us but how does that help to make you feel better and the players you slag off play better?

Rationality and support are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. I support the club as you all do. When the going gets tough, some of you show it in a destructive way. Others are more rational. They start considering Plan B. It's called having both a brain and a heart. Life after the PL will not be all that different for me except that it will be cheaper to indulge my passion. I seem to recall that life was pretty good this time last year. If "You know what" does happen to us, no doubt next year will be even sweeter unless of course we are bankrupted in the process of trying to save ourselves this year. Pompey, Hull, Coventry, Both Sheffield clubs and of course QPR are classic examples where owners and fans forgot to use their brains when "You know what" happened to them. There I have avoided the R word because some of you don't like to hear it.

Anyway, apart from your blind faith that we will get out of this mess, which of you actually thinks we will get that many points in our last eight games of this season? Perhaps I inhabit a parallel universe to the rest of you. Does our run-in not consist of most of the teams chasing European places as well as the 3 contesting the title? We are coming to the end of the easy games and the cushion protecting us from "You know what" is goal difference alone.
 
PS I forgot to say what a pleasure it was to have so many of our senior citizens responding. Pity that it does not seem to have inspired some lesser members and newbies to chip in.
 
I hope we stay up...but realistically even though it hurts I think we are going down. We have played terrible in some games, real bad. Man utd home? I know its man utd but we weren't in the game...whereas a year ago being a lower division team we would have been more up for fighting against the bigger teams. I hope I'm proved wrong and the squad that SHOULD stay up does the buisness.
 
The ball goes wide to Dave Thomas said:
All the time you are a supporter live up to the word supporter Our third team of the season has to mesh ... Yes it's a gamble but I have yet to meet anyone who knows what is going to happen

I suggest and promote the optimistic option as the other one means theres little point at doing or believing anything ... Get to that point Brother and you may as well join me in the cuckoo factory ...that puts things into perspective

QPR are staying up
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But they're calling themselves FANS, Dave. <doh>
 
Mate, based on form, we've been one of the worst 3 teams in this league all season...Only a lucky win against Chels and Everton have shielded us from the truth...
I will support no matter where we are, but reality teall me that we aint going tio get mor than 10 points from the rest of our games...that wont be enough...unless of course MH works miricles whilst away with the team

So MH...No pressure there then.....!!
 
i dont think we need a miracle we just need to get the so called premier leaguue stars to pull there fingers out and start playing like they are stars. oh **** that would be a miracle
 
We will get relegated if we don't get anything much from next couple of games. This prospect doesn't actually bother me that much because I will support Rangers whatever. What has alienated me a bit is all these so called star players suddenly coming to our club and not living up to expectations, although whether that is their fault or the fault of he people that signed them is another question. If we get relegated we will now probably need to rebuild a team from scratch.
 
South Harrow said:
We will get relegated if we don't get anything much from next couple of games. This prospect doesn't actually bother me that much because I will support Rangers whatever. What has alienated me a bit is all these so called star players suddenly coming to our club and not living up to expectations, although whether that is their fault or the fault of he people that signed them is another question. If we get relegated we will now probably need to rebuild a team from scratch.
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Thats the worrying thing. NW built a new team based around older established Champ players. Most of them are gone or going. Barton, SWP, Zamora our loan signings Diakite and Taiwo won't stay around to play Champ football. This leaves a problem of having to rebuild next summer again and the other question is will MH stay? We need to stay up to push on as a club. We will stay up.
 
For a start lets try winning some home games at fortress loftus,you guys that go have got to channel your positive thoughts through to the players,and if that dont work slag em off?
 
Queenslander!! said:
Mate, based on form, we've been one of the worst 3 teams in this league all season...Only a lucky win against Chels and Everton have shielded us from the truth...
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Thats spot on really. Without those two 'lucky' wins we would be bottom. Then again I guess all the bottom teams have had lucky wins. Wigan last week for one. Wolves against us for another.

And its not being pesimistic to plan for Relegation. Good managers plan for various outcomes. I am sure the QPR management have two plans on the boil as we speak Plan A - survival and Plan B - The Championship and how to get promoted at the first attempt.

If we do drop and any right minded person must admit that this is more likely than not, then we must get back at the first attempt. To do that we need to keep MH and most of the team. Whatever happens though, we need to get rid of Barton and SWP. They will hinder both our chances of promotion or if we survive they will hinder any improvement. Survival or relegation the results hsould be the same. Get rid of JB and SWP

If we dont get back at the first attempt then we will probably be in the wilderness for many many years to come. If we failed to return immediately, Hughes would go, most of the players would go too. I suspect Tony F would go as well. We would need a complete and total rebuild.

It would then be like 15 years ago................unless the Mittals stay and bankroll the rebuild.
 
YorkshireHoopster said:
PS I forgot to say what a pleasure it was to have so many of our senior citizens responding. Pity that it does not seem to have inspired some lesser members and newbies to chip in.
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Well, you might get a few more responses if you waited a bit longer than 5 hrs, some of us do sleep, work, and other things that don't include non stop not606 reading and commenting <yikes>

As for the realism, i'm sure that if you study the tables and statistics, and judge the rest of the season by that, we're gone. But you know what they say about statistics...

If you consider that we have already won Chelski this season, and didn't play too bad against ManC either, anything could happen, including some surprise wins against the big6. And for the rest, we just need the team to start playing up to their ability, and have more of the lucky breaks going our way rather than against us. For me we aren't going down before it is mathematically impossible to stay up, there's always hope till then.
 
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