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Daily Racing Thread Thursday 13th. August 2020

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Thursday's Meetings

    Salisbury

    Flat 9 Races 12:45-4:55p.m.
    Leopardstown
    Flat 8 Races 1:00-4:30p.m.
    Hamilton
    Flat 9 Races 1:35-5:50p.m.
    Bath(E)
    Flat 9 Races 3:55-8:00p.m.
    Tramore(E)
    Mixed 7 Races 4:40-7:45p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. You See

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    Bath 425
    Secret return beat a few of the challengers a few runs back at c/d . Secret is 2/2 here and also gets a great 7lb claim from Tyler Heard who is operating at around 20% over the last year and close on over the last 14 days on turf . 6s looks big in my personal opinion .
     
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  3. NassauBoard

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    Careful today with the ground. If Bath gets any of the rain that we’ve seen up in Gloucestershire then it could be a nightmare situation of rain softened surface with dry road like subsurface. I fear for runners today if that is the case.
     
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    Tried to cover that base with secret goes well on gs/g . Just got to chipping campden and boy it looks like they had some rain!
     
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    14:50 Salisbury - Kepala

    (Don't usually bother having a bet mid-week, but this filly caught the eye. She certainly has the form to win this race, and I fancy she can scoot away before one or two of the other fancied staying fillies can get at her? A possible change in going, as outlined by Nassau above for the Bath course, might screw things up for Salisbury too, must admit, but will have to take a chance there. Hollie Doyle rides, need I say more?)
     
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    What's going on at Salisbury today...?? Just flicking through the cards on my lunch break and see that most of the races are just full of non-runners. Is there something we don't know that we should be...??
     
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    its these storms. Or lack of.
     
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    Leopardstown

    14,30

    1st

    9 He Knows No Fear 300/1

    (14) 3 9-7

    T: L Comer J: C D Hayes

    Rear of mid-division, pushed along approaching straight, headway on outer over 1f out, went 2nd and ridden 150 yards out, kept on well to lead on line op 125/1
     
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  9. NassauBoard

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    I can’t wait for Grendel to give his view of how this one won.
     
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  10. OddDog

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    His RPR of 43 might explain? No? OK <cheers>
     
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    Adam west has a chance of a double at Hamilton 5.50 shark ew

    Sorry was to late to put the first one up
     
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  12. SaveTheHumans

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    Hard to believe the public weren't all over this one at the odds. Missed the break lto and still managed to beat the 83 rated Ger Lyons colt Lough Cutra, who had subsequently only been beaten 0.81 lenghts to Epsom Derby runner Russian Emperor and also ran the decent looking sort Numen (96) close. With improvement forthcoming, it was obvious today was likely to be the day.
     
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  13. Grendel

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    Agitare was the archetypal bad favourite.

    1. Jim Bolger hasn't been able to train ivy up a wall for years now.
    2. The horse was a seven time loser
    3. The official handicap mark of 98 was/is nonsense with his performances on RPR 82, 85, 82, 103, 85, 102, 79 and now today 79 again. Two clear outliers that would be removed in any sane mathematical analysis.
    4. The horse was gelded after his previous race.
    5. The Weld horse had a fake handicap mark of 88 based on one run. His other efforts were 62, 74, 76, 70, 74 and today 55
    6. The Harrington horse had a fake handicap mark based on two maiden efforts behind disappointing AOB horses, those runs were rated 82 and 92 and Jungle Cove was awarded an official rating of 96. One of the runs was in the Group 2 Futurity where Armory won but I said at the time that it was the end of Armory's Guineas dreams. People disagreed but Armory has not won since and out of 22 runs that group race has yielded ZERO wins, three places and 19 unplaced. I looked at it at the time and decided it looked a sticky turd of a race and I managed that on instinct, long before the inevitable false ratings followed based on the childlike faith that a Group 2 MUST be of a certain level. Still rated 89, Jungle Cove's other runs have been 58, 67, 76, 67, 71, 75 then gelded and today 55. I suspect only the handicapper sits red faced and harbouring some hope that one day the horse will find the 41 lbs to make his one time 96 rating look like it wasn't a rush of **** to the head. Meantime, it's chop, chop, chop to the 89 mark. 85 anyone?

    Of the 15 runner field today, 2 were fillies, 12 were geldings and there was only ONE colt. Guess who? Correct, it was He Knows No Fear. I am surprised your database didn't pick up on that one. Maybe the wrong filter there?

    Anyway, I reckon it was my two quid each-way on the lone colt that saw him come in from 500/1 to 400/1 and then 300/1. The smart money was there but most were wasting their cash on the ball-less non-entities with their inflated ratings based on fluffy form.

    As David Frost used to say on Through The Keyhole "The clues are there"
     
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    Biggest priced winner in the history of horse racing in the UK and Éire. Mhaith and buachaill, thar barr.
     
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    Epsom Derby winner Serpentine had a RPR of just 54 for his first race.
     
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