Things that annoy you about BBC coverage..

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When it comes to slightly technical issues why is DC found completely wanting, for someone who has only left the sport fairly recently his lack of ability to contribute a basic level of technical insight in that commentary box is baffling
 
There are numerous things wrong with the BBC's coverage.

The fact is that people who have profited from committing crimes against the parents of murdered schoolchildren will soon be making more money by charging us to watch them **** up races with adverts. And the fact is that no amount of improvement by Sky on what the BBC do can outweigh this.
 
Well Miggs: you put it far more strongly than I would but I agree that she brings nothing to the team or the BBC show and it has amazed me that she has been retained, almost as much as it did Legard; but most importantly, she's far easier to ignore.
I reckon she is most likely retained becuase she looks good on screen.
 
When it comes to slightly technical issues why is DC found completely wanting, for someone who has only left the sport fairly recently his lack of ability to contribute a basic level of technical insight in that commentary box is baffling


One of the great things about using a forum like this is that not only can I learn the genuine feeling of 'real people' (it's strange how many people conceal their real feelings when face to face); but I can say what I think.

And I have to say Jacky, that your observation is quite astute. David Coulthard was never particularly hot on the technical side of things and it was a contributory factor (in my opinion) to his relative 'under-achievement'. I say under-achievement because he has a lot of natural speed; but he was unable to convert this into three times as many victories and a World Championship because his technical ability never matched his more illustrious team-mates: in particular, Damon Hill and Mika Hakkinen.
 


One of the great things about using a forum like this is that not only can I learn the genuine feeling of 'real people' (it's strange how many people conceal their real feelings when face to face); but I can say what I think.

And I have to say Jacky, that your observation is quite astute. David Coulthard was never particularly hot on the technical side of things and it was a contributory factor (in my opinion) to his relative 'under-achievement'. I say under-achievement because he has a lot of natural speed; but he was unable to convert this into three times as many victories and a World Championship because his technical ability never matched his more illustrious team-mates: in particular, Damon Hill and Mika Hakkinen.


What about when he was Kimi's teammate then?
Kimi was never known to be a developer of a car perhaps even less than Coulthard yet he pushed the Mclaren a lot harder than DC ever did.
Is a technical driver really at that much of an advantage?
 
What about when he was Kimi's teammate then?
Kimi was never known to be a developer of a car perhaps even less than Coulthard yet he pushed the Mclaren a lot harder than DC ever did.
Is a technical driver really at that much of an advantage?


You're right about Raikkonen's technical ability Sam. That's why I restricted my comparison to Hill and Hakkinen.

There is a view that by the time he was paired with Raikkonen, Ron Dennis had gambled that Raikkonen's natural speed (probably slightly ahead of Coulthard's) would be enough to demonstrate Mclaren's considerable number crunching capacity! It is also popular to hold the view that Ron Dennis had something of a penchant for Scandinavian drivers! However, it is also my view that this was the reason that neither of these drivers claimed a world title during that time, and that as a result, McLaren lost their way until Alonso came along. (Alonso's technical ability is, in my opinion, superior to both of them). And Hamilton came along and just wrung the neck of the car, regardless of how it was set-up (wrecking tyres in the process).

On that last note, it is interesting that Button's superior technical ability has off-set Hamilton's raw speed in a way Alonso could not do. I find this whole thing fascinating! :)
 
Cosi, are you suggesting that, at the moment, Button is the most complete driver on the grid?

As for technical drivers, Prost & Lauda spring to mind. Prost was never as fast as Senna, but if they didn't have the ability to drop poor results in the 80's then Prost would've beaten Senna 2/2 whilst they were tam-mates.
 
Oh! that stupid pre event trailer about tyres with Brundle, that keep coming up at every GP.

Yes we know using full wets is a bad thing in hot weather Brundle!!!
 
Oh! that stupid pre event trailer about tyres with Brundle, that keep coming up at every GP.

Yes we know using full wets is a bad thing in hot weather Brundle!!!

yes, a tad annoying, but you must remember that it's quite probable that someone is watching F1 fr the first time and may not.
 
Cosi, are you suggesting that, at the moment, Button is the most complete driver on the grid?…
Hmm…
You know what Miggs? - I've never looked at it like that but you may have focussed on a good point! That said, any 'complete driver' needs to have Qualifying as a strength in his armoury. Button appears to be addressing this now and if he succeeds, I feel he might indeed merit such an accolade!