The var thread
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Still upset you missed a row?
One? I’ve missed about five!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49683036
VAR (or rather the officials) should have overturned 4 decisions in the opening weeks of yhe season.
VAR (or rather the officials) should have overturned 4 decisions in the opening weeks of yhe season.
I don't recall seeing the City incident vs Bmouth, so I can't comment on that. But I did say I thought VAR got it wrong with the Newcastle incident vs Watford, and the West Ham incident vs Norwich.
The Leicester incident vs Bmouth I did think should have been a red, but I wasn't totally sure if it was clear and obvious enough (so wasn't inclined to believe that VAR got that one wrong). Turns out it was.
The Leicester incident vs Bmouth I did think should have been a red, but I wasn't totally sure if it was clear and obvious enough (so wasn't inclined to believe that VAR got that one wrong). Turns out it was.
I'm not looking for contentious decisions from var, just clear and obvious. And all four were clear and obvious. Hopefully, the people behind it learn from it, and quick.
And a side note to the refs, if you are unsure, let play continue then get var to check. Then we can avoid incidents like at the end of the Villa game. Only blow for a dive if you are 100% sure. Easier to rule out with a lack of whistle.
And a side note to the refs, if you are unsure, let play continue then get var to check. Then we can avoid incidents like at the end of the Villa game. Only blow for a dive if you are 100% sure. Easier to rule out with a lack of whistle.
I’ve decided the worst part about VAR is the fans. It was bad enough our fans chanting “VAR, VAR” when their goals was ruled out, but ok that’s a bit of banter, but any fans (like theirs were) chanting it to the referee trying to make him review an incident, should be ejected from the stadium immediately.
Embarrassing.
Please don’t let us do that.
Embarrassing.
Please don’t let us do that.
Good average honestly considering there's 10 games a week.I don't know how many correct overturns since they don't cause controversy but the 3 match changing decisions in our games alone almost make up for that. working well so far this season. Hasn't unnecessarily slowed down the games i've watched either.
I have always been ok with Var as long as used quickly, if it improves the game. If it had got 40% wrong, then it has got 60% right and that means an improvement. I always said that if it helps get more important decisions correct, then that can only be good.
I still don’t like how long it takes.
Blades’ goal yesterday could have been ruled out quicker, while they were celebrating in the corner
I still don’t like how long it takes.
Blades’ goal yesterday could have been ruled out quicker, while they were celebrating in the corner
I'd suggest it's not too different to what we had before though if we're still getting a howler a week. Hardly worth all the hassle if they're just going to back their ref mates up.
I wonder how many more consecutive penalties United will get.
VAR is being used for 2 completely different categories of decisions. If was limited to objective rulings like offsides then there shouldn’t be an issue with it. Trouble is, when ruling on penalties, red cards, and so on, you are ultimately exchanging one flawed human’s view for another’s, so what’s the point?
Yeah this is my big issue, having a ridiculous high standard and not wishing to overturn refs decisions in some aspects and completely re refereeing the game to the nearest mm in others.
I mean it clearly is. some serious selective memory going on there.
I'll ignore how there were clearly more than 1 howler a week last season.
Firstly those howlers would have been howlers without VAR. So no change there.
Secondly, even if you put your cherrypicked bad decisions from all 50 games against the correct VAR overturns from our 5 alone thats -3 incorrect decisions from 8. I'm sure there were many more correct decisions from the other 45 games.
Thirdly, if the overturned goals in our games were allowed to stand and the opposition then defended and prevented us from scoring we would be on 1 point so far this season and bottom rather than top half. hard to say it hasn't had an impact there
I just think there is a serious case of those against VAR selectively choosing the worst cases of innaction and ignoring all the correct ones because they aren't controversial and don't get the media coverage.
VAR is doing ok without too many teething problems and will only get better, quicker and more efficient. These discussions will largely be forgotten by next season I reckon.
... because sometimes a referee won’t see something or be able to see something.
With reference to your final paragraph, the reason it's selective is because I've never once said it won't get more right than wrong, so there's no point discussing/arguing a point I've always agreed with.
The reason I bring up the blatant ones not given is because that is supposedly the main reason it was brought in.
We weren't told it was coming it because it was essential to correct the offside that were fractionally on or off. We were told it was brought in to eliminate the complete howlers that the ref missed and/or got wrong.
People would say 'Yeah it might not get everything right but it will stop teams being blatantly robbed of a result via an awful decision.' but that's simply not happened.
We've already had a manager lose his job after being robbed from a howler and no doubt we'll see more situations like that because var won't prevent situations like that.
We obviously all have our opinions and some people think it's going well which is fine. But let's not re-write history and pretend it's doing exactly what people said it would in recent years.