The var thread

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The checking of var when a goal is scored has always been my biggest worry. Looking for a reason to rule it out, even with a different passage of play. Now they have proved that not only will they rule out a goal because of a innocuous incident in the centre of the park, but they will also miss clear handballs in the penalty area in the build up.
So what good is VAR? I find it hard to justify its purpose.
 
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My fear was that VAR would be overused as I didn't want the game ruined, but using it with a light hand is ok. That way it will correct some errors which is obviously a good thing.....but no system will get everything right for the simple reason that not every decision is clear cut. There will never be a situation where every decision is unarguably correct....that is impossible.
 
----HistoryRepeating---- said:
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At least I'm consistent. You little lovers just bang some random;
'It'll be good one day!' Drum.
Laughable.
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How is complaining about how VAR should have been used and then saying to scrap it the next moment consistent <laugh> those are opposites.
You cant get more inconsistent than that.

I've been saying they should only use it for offsides and black and white decisions until it improves from its first iteration. I also complained about the hand ball rule back then too, though theyve made it worse. That's consistency.
 
----HistoryRepeating---- said:
Err.....except for handballs? Surely.
Has anyone actually seen it? It was so obvious. VAR was sleeping.
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Exactly..

I think VAR actually makes things worse, at least before you could attribute mistakes to referees's human error.

Now, we have a team of referees watching the game for ages, losing the atmosphere, slowing it down, and still being completely wrong
 
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st_brendy said:
In my view they messed up twice yesterday. Firstly, with the Newcastle handball (but like I say, they've apparently accepted they made a mistake there). Secondly, with the West Ham non-penalty. For me, it should have given as a West Ham penalty (although the lack of people jumping on that maybe suggests that I'm in a minority of believing that to be penalty, and hence it wasn't as clear and obvious as it looked to me).

It wasn't a good day for a VAR as a result.

But instead of focusing on those two incidents, for some reason we're focusing on the Villa incident, which has nothing to do with VAR except for the possible awarding of a Villa penalty.
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So VAR is bad because it failed to correct two refereeing errors? I would like to see how many incorrect decisions were corrected, how many correct decisions were incorrectly overruled and work out some stats before judging. If VAR makes decisions 10% more accurate, then surely it is a success?
 
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So VAR is bad because it failed to correct two refereeing errors? I would like to see how many incorrect decisions were corrected, how many correct decisions were incorrectly overruled and work out some stats before judging. If VAR makes decisions 10% more accurate, then surely it is a success?
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That is sound logic, but the immeasaurble quantity is how much the atmosphere is ruined by the checks.

For me, the balance between correct decisions vs. ruining the game isn't worth it atm. I hope you're all right that it will improve with more use though
 
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So VAR is bad because it failed to correct two refereeing errors? I would like to see how many incorrect decisions were corrected, how many correct decisions were incorrectly overruled and work out some stats before judging. If VAR makes decisions 10% more accurate, then surely it is a success?
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You're arguing with the wrong guy. I'm totally in favour in VAR.

I was just pointing out that it did, in my view, makes two errors yesterday. It can do better. And I've no doubt it will.
 
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