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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. 
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Taking a different tack in the Science Discovery Thread, here's something of great interest. It concerns the venerable General Stud Book, the bible of breeding. The General Stud Book is the be all and end all when it comes to global breeding. But here's an intriguing question. Where does the breeding scene stand if the recorded history of the General Stud Book's history is deeply flawed?
Below is a link to some research which uncovered quite a number genetic errors in the General Stud Book. At the bottom of the first page you'll find the links to pages 11, 111, IV etc. The information on offer tends to be a bit too much to handle all at once, but slow and steady over a bit of time does the trick. Over all, the read is a real eye opener. It seem probable that at some stages of the past, quite a number of dodgy details were lodged with the General Stud Book.
http://www.tbheritage.com/GeneticMarkers/mtdnaintbdamlines.html
Below is a link to some research which uncovered quite a number genetic errors in the General Stud Book. At the bottom of the first page you'll find the links to pages 11, 111, IV etc. The information on offer tends to be a bit too much to handle all at once, but slow and steady over a bit of time does the trick. Over all, the read is a real eye opener. It seem probable that at some stages of the past, quite a number of dodgy details were lodged with the General Stud Book.
http://www.tbheritage.com/GeneticMarkers/mtdnaintbdamlines.html
It has always surprised me that we could look at the pedigree of a horse and see that the mares in the bottom line said something like Ron’s Byerley Mare or Sister to Cyc in the 1750s. Though those families found their way into the GSB in 1791 and were mistakes I think you can live with them.
More worrying is ‘later mistakes’, the research says the mid 19th Century for some of these. These could have been honest mistakes or skulduggery but we’ll never know. It would be interesting to see an old pedigree set against a revised pedigree to see what different interpretations could be made.
My guess is to the the punter having 6x 25p doubles at Ladbrokes it is not going to amount to much.
More worrying is ‘later mistakes’, the research says the mid 19th Century for some of these. These could have been honest mistakes or skulduggery but we’ll never know. It would be interesting to see an old pedigree set against a revised pedigree to see what different interpretations could be made.
My guess is to the the punter having 6x 25p doubles at Ladbrokes it is not going to amount to much.
No thoroughbred is perfect (although I will dare to say that Sprinter Sacre and Enable are lovely specimens in their sphere and possibly as near perfect as you can get in modern day racing). However, if a knowledgeable breeder has been successfully line breeding for decades (with the occasional suitably selected outcross) at least they have a fair idea of what they are getting. and what when on hundreds of years ago has probably little significance
I'm sure you are right Ron, but I was always fascinated by the 1990 Cheltenham Gold Cup. Desert Orchid was expected to sluice up but was beaten by Norton's Coin, a 100-1 unconsidered outsider. Curiously a Thoroughbred pundit published his pedigree thoughts on the race prior to it being run and selected Norton's Coin as the best qualified horse (on pedigree) to win the race. You look at his pedigree and there's very little in the first 4 generations to get you thinking this could be so. It can only be luck or the collective data of previous generations of that horse. Perhaps it was just luck
For me an interesting feature is the 1892 born Black Cherry, who was about his 12th dam and a very influential broodmare in the history of the thoroughbred.
If in the tail line of today's horses we have the wrong pedigree dating back to 1850 perhaps we (if we happen to look) may make the wrong conclusions.
For me an interesting feature is the 1892 born Black Cherry, who was about his 12th dam and a very influential broodmare in the history of the thoroughbred.
If in the tail line of today's horses we have the wrong pedigree dating back to 1850 perhaps we (if we happen to look) may make the wrong conclusions.
I'm no expert on pedigree analysis Bustino but I'm sure it's possible for something from older generations to stay in the gene (if that's the right expression). I suspect Norton's Coin had a choppy pedigree. In the 4th line there were some class horses, in particular, Dante, Aureole, My Love and Crepello, and obviously their pre-decessors. Apart from those I haven't a clue who they are or what they did. It would be interesting though to see how he came to that conclusion. Was the pundit Tony Morris by any chance? I used to enjoy his articles
Scientists Have Figured Out How to Extract Oxygen From Moon Dirt
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/tech...gen-from-moon-dirt/ar-AAIzabq?ocid=spartanntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/tech...gen-from-moon-dirt/ar-AAIzabq?ocid=spartanntp
Years ago I used to have a telescope and found it a blast. There are some wonderful sights out there. I wasn't really all that into the planets, more the deep space stuff. If you do decide to get a scope Ste, do your home work. It's all about aperture. And think hard about how much you want to spend and the size. If I buy another, it'll be an 8 inch and be computer driven. You punch in what you want to see and the computer will take you straight there, and follow the target.
Reflector or refractor? It's up to you. The latter are best for deep space, but if you buy wisely, you can get a quality reflector that will still do an amazing job at a cheaper price.
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I didn't know where to put this vid, but as there's a bit of science involved, maybe it belongs on this thread. I've only watched a few of these battles in the past, but someone online mentioned this clash, so I chased it down. It's the Rumble in the Jungle allover again. Imagine being trapped in the ring with one of these monsters. There'd be rivers of blood all over the place.
120 pound class.
Blacksmith. USA.
Minotaur. Brazil.
120 pound class.
Blacksmith. USA.
Minotaur. Brazil.
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3D-printed Living Skin With Blood Vessels Created by Scientists
Interesting but also creepy if you let your imagination run riot
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/tech...ated-by-scientists/ar-AAJOSCP?ocid=spartanntp
Interesting but also creepy if you let your imagination run riot
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/tech...ated-by-scientists/ar-AAJOSCP?ocid=spartanntp
Definitely Cyc. But with robotics, AI and now skin with veins allowing blood flow, it's also mind blowing what will be next