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Scotland looked very good again today but Wales are woeful at the moment. Can't believe Borthwick has dropped Smith and gone with Farrell at 10. Get ready for a borefest. Ffs
 
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Hammersmith bookie said:
Scotland looked very good again today but Wales are woeful at the moment. Can't believe Borthwick has dropped Smith and gone with Farrell at 10. Get ready for a borefest. Ffs[/QUOTE

Couldn’t disagree more.
The vast majority of international pundits would agree that Farrell is a 10 NOT a centre. As much as Smith has potential, Farrell is light years ahead in rugby intellect
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Can't agree pal, I seriously believe that Farrell has held us back from being a top team. Serious lack of flair in my eyes, too often chooses the wrong option and way too often too quick to kick the ball away. Smith has that ounce of unpredictability and flair that I believe we should be building the team around in the future. He needs nurturing and backing, dropping him now will only hurt him. Borthwick made Farrell and has already backed himself into a corner, I was hopeful that his appointment might see a progression in our running with the ball and some cohesion between the back row and the 9,10 pivot, I'm not hopeful at all now. Could be wrong, but my gut tells me different.
 
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Can't agree pal, I seriously believe that Farrell has held us back from being a top team. Serious lack of flair in my eyes, too often chooses the wrong option and way too often too quick to kick the ball away. Smith has that ounce of unpredictability and flair that I believe we should be building the team around in the future. He needs nurturing and backing, dropping him now will only hurt him. Borthwick made Farrell and has already backed himself into a corner, I was hopeful that his appointment might see a progression in our running with the ball and some cohesion between the back row and the 9,10 pivot, I'm not hopeful at all now. Could be wrong, but my gut tells me different.
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We’ll agree to disagree
Farrell is and has been a world class 10 playing under a complete muppet of a manager. He is not a centre. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Smith has potential but that’s it… potential.

let’s put this in real terms for you. Farrell would push Sexton but Smith would be our 3rd or 4th choice out half. That’s not me being inflammatory. That’s the truth
 
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QPRNUTS said:
We’ll agree to disagree
Farrell is and has been a world class 10 playing under a complete muppet of a manager. He is not a centre. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Smith has potential but that’s it… potential.

let’s put this in real terms for you. Farrell would push Sexton but Smith would be our 3rd or 4th choice out half. That’s not me being inflammatory. That’s the truth
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Sexton is light years ahead of Farrell, and Smith won't get to fill his potential being left out. I've seen time after time Farrell either be too slow to release the ball or kick away attacking opportunities. Like you say we'll have to disagree but as an England supporter I'm disappointed by Borthwick's decision. Also if Arundel is fit he should be starting too, bloke is electric.
 
Tomorrow's game will tell us nothing, but the rest of the tournament will, lets see how many opportunities Farrell can unlock against Ireland or France !
 
Taffvalerowdy said:
Sadly, it’s both telling and understandable that you failed to include Wales :angry: <cheers>
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Your in the same boat as us Taff, big rebuilding required. Even Gatland has his work cut out. You've lost alot of top players all at once, and others past their prime. Not sure you have a huge pool of talent to choose from and we know the chaos going on at top level. Give it time and you'll be back among the elite. I wasn't overly keen on Borthwick's appointment, only time will tell, but I'm not happy with the early choices he's made. Ireland and France are both top top sides atm, but a Workd Cup is a totally different animal. Both those sides have big questions to answer when it comes to lifting that trophy. The Springboks will still still prove mighty hard to beat and the All Blacks, while not their invincible best, will still go close.
 
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Your in the same boat as us Taff, big rebuilding required. Even Gatland has his work cut out. You've lost alot of top players all at once, and others past their prime. Not sure you have a huge pool of talent to choose from and we know the chaos going on at top level. Give it time and you'll be back among the elite. I wasn't overly keen on Borthwick's appointment, only time will tell, but I'm not happy with the early choices he's made. Ireland and France are both top top sides atm, but a Workd Cup is a totally different animal. Both those sides have big questions to answer when it comes to lifting that trophy. The Springboks will still still prove mighty hard to beat and the All Blacks, while not their invincible best, will still go close.
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Spot on
 
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Sexton is light years ahead of Farrell, and Smith won't get to fill his potential being left out. I've seen time after time Farrell either be too slow to release the ball or kick away attacking opportunities. Like you say we'll have to disagree but as an England supporter I'm disappointed by Borthwick's decision. Also if Arundel is fit he should be starting too, bloke is electric.
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Farrell is a world class 10 imo.
Smith has huge ability but tends to showboat a little too much for my liking.
 
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The Varney boys!

The top photo is Adrian ‘Reg’ Varney playing for Neath in the early 1990s - a very decent open side flanker who could have/should have been capped.

The second photo is Reg’s son Stephen who played scrum half for Italy today: Reg married an Italian girl, Valeria.
 
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