The RIP Thread

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On the suicide... no excuses imo it’s the ultimate selfishness black and white for me

I have to disagree with that assertion, I’m afraid, Paul. I think I’m massively fortunate that despite some pretty big kickbacks over the past 18 months my mental health is thus far coping rather well. I have no idea, but can guess, the mental depths of despair some people reach, either through life experience or just unfortunate wiring, and why they reach the conclusions that they do as a consequence. It’s darkly sad and overwhelmingly tragic for all involved, but selfish? I can understand why some might think that, but it’s not that simple.
 
I have to disagree with that assertion, I’m afraid, Paul. I think I’m massively fortunate that despite some pretty big kickbacks over the past 18 months my mental health is thus far coping rather well. I have no idea, but can guess, the mental depths of despair some people reach, either through life experience or just unfortunate wiring, and why they reach the conclusions that they do as a consequence. It’s darkly sad and overwhelmingly tragic for all involved, but selfish? I can understand why some might think that, but it’s not that simple.

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Keith Flint's death has echoes of Gary Speed's about it. Appeared in public apparently normal just prior to committing suicide. The only person I know who did it was my Fire Brigade instructor. He hung himself. I can remember a session on knots and lines in training school when he showed us how to make a noose and mimicked hanging himself. Almost thirty years later he actually did it after his wife left him. Saw plenty of this stuff on the job though and was probably the most prevalent cause of death as opposed to fires and car crashes etc. Sad.
 
Charlie Whiting, race director for F1 and a lynchpin of the sport, dead of a pulmonary embolism after the long flight to Melbourne to officiate at the first GP of the season. 66. RIP, he will be hugely, and instantly, missed.

He‘s the bloke you hear the drivers ask their teams to talk to when they are upset about something that has happened on the track. ‘Ask Charlie about that’. Pretty much universally respected I think.
 
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Some on FB copied and pasted this extract from Winnie the Pooh. Bare in mind the recent mental health deaths - Keith Flint - I thought that I would post this. I have lost a friend ( along time ago) who took his own life and in my most recent role, discovered that someone had done something completely out of the normal. Not sure whether i could contact this person directly I wrote to an appropriate person and asked if a letter I wrote was suitable to be passed on. All I wrote was that I was impressed with that career choice that person had decided on, and all the opportunities it offered that person (and they could work anywhere in the world - if that is what they wanted) and expressed my admiration because at their age I hadn't a clue what I wanted to do. Not sure whether this would ever get to the person it was intended to get to - I hope it does - however in my job I just saw something that a brought memories back of my friend 20 years ago. Below I the extract from Winnie the Pooh

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Some on FB copied and pasted this extract from Winnie the Pooh. Bare in mind the recent mental health deaths - Keith Flint - I thought that I would post this. I have lost a friend ( along time ago) who took his own life and in my most recent role, discovered that someone had done something completely out of the normal. Not sure whether i could contact this person directly I wrote to an appropriate person and asked if a letter I wrote was suitable to be passed on. All I wrote was that I was impressed with that career choice that person had decided on, and all the opportunities it offered that person (and they could work anywhere in the world - if that is what they wanted) and expressed my admiration because at their age I hadn't a clue what I wanted to do. Not sure whether this would ever get to the person it was intended to get to - I hope it does - however in my job I just saw something that a brought memories back of my friend 20 years ago. Below I the extract from Winnie the Pooh

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Can I ask a stupid question.
Is that a real extract from
‘Winnie the Pooh’ or something made up more recently ?
If it’s original then I might have to look up if AA Milne had any personal experience of MH issues as what’s written seems pretty much spot on from my personal experience.
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The person that posted this used to work with me in a residential care home and school for autistic children. I doubt whether this is something that they would have made up - they like me have known someone that has taken their life.
 
Can I ask a stupid question.
Is that a real extract from
‘Winnie the Pooh’ or something made up more recently ?
If it’s original then I might have to look up if AA Milne had any personal experience of MH issues as what’s written seems pretty much spot on from my personal experience.
Thanks for posting

It's in the style of AA Milne, but I don't think he wrote it. Still, most appropriate for the times we live in nonetheless
 
Can I ask a stupid question.
Is that a real extract from
‘Winnie the Pooh’ or something made up more recently ?
If it’s original then I might have to look up if AA Milne had any personal experience of MH issues as what’s written seems pretty much spot on from my personal experience.
Thanks for posting

Worth noting that Milne served as an Officer in the 1st World War and was injured at the Battle of the Somme and subsequently invalided home in 1916, so I'd be surprised if he hadn't suffered some form of PTSD. He wrote a denunciation of war in 1934 entitled 'Peace with Honour' some 9 years after the 'Pooh' books were published but later retracted it somewhat in 1940 with 'War with Honour' when he was a Captain in the Home Guard. I guess he would have had many dark moments after such experience...
 
Worth noting that Milne served as an Officer in the 1st World War and was injured at the Battle of the Somme and subsequently invalided home in 1916, so I'd be surprised if he hadn't suffered some form of PTSD. He wrote a denunciation of war in 1934 entitled 'Peace with Honour' some 9 years after the 'Pooh' books were published but later retracted it somewhat in 1940 with 'War with Honour' when he was a Captain in the Home Guard. I guess he would have had many dark moments after such experience...

This prompted me to look up Milne's Wiki. A couple of notable things for me - he was from Kilburn and one of his teachers was H G Wells.

A great man.