the relegation rivals

[askewshair]

It’s not just us though, I read there’s a huge drop in goals scored from outside the box generally. Presumably to do with tippy tappy football.
There’s my interesting contribution to this thread.I’m sure someone will dig out some stats supporting it .

And I believe a massive upturn in goals from corners, which we definitely haven’t reciprocated. Not sure about conceding from corners?

 

[Evington]

It is. If we beat Stoke and Cardiff, for example, we’d be on 41 points, Stoke would be on 39 and Cardiff on 37. Beating Stoke and Cardiff and losing to Sheffield United and Sunderland would’ve been far, far better.

This feels eerily similar to Sellés’ short stint as Southampton head coach a couple of seasons ago when Nathan Jones was sacked. He got some good results by beating Chelsea 1-0, drawing against Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool but losing to Leeds, West Ham, Bournemouth and Forest who were all in the bottom half. Southampton still went down.

I thought Southampton were pretty much doomed before he got the gig?

 

[bradymk2]

I think a massive weakness with our team is

Heading goals
Especially in the champ

We are woeful at it

 

[TigerMarv]

Makes sense, I don’t know my balls

I don't know your balls either

 

[TigerMarv]

I think a massive weakness with our team is

Heading goals
Especially in the champ

We are woeful at it

I think Jones has had a few good chances but either straight at the keeper or off target

 

[bradymk2]

I think Jones has had a few good chances but either straight at the keeper or off target

Its a big weakness of jones

Hes scored 2 goals in almost 200 games for us

Macca 0 in almost 150 games

 

[GLP]

Its a big weakness of jones

Hes scored 2 goals in almost 200 games for us

That’s quite decent compared with the current squad.

 

[bradymk2]

That’s quite decent compared with the current squad.

We've somehow recruited a whole squad that has scored about 5 goals between them in their whole career

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Cant remember zambranos goal at all or who it was against

But outside of the box goals always end up in end of season reels
Theyre rare
But satisfying when they do go in

Cardiff

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

Sooo....

We can't score from outside the box.

We can't score from corners.

We can't score from headers.

We can't score from free kicks.

Our defenders can't score.

We don't get penalties.


Chuck in the fact that we never put in any decent crosses and there's no wonder we're staring down the barrel of relegation.

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

when my young un is with me, her attention drifts off as you would expect, so whenver we get within 30 yards of goals i make her watch and say look we might score here.
she keeps giving me a frustrated look as to say why do you keep saying that when nothing happens, starting to make me question my sanity as shes got a point

 

[Gone For A Walk]

Its a big weakness of jones

Hes scored 2 goals in almost 200 games for us

Macca 0 in almost 150 games

If that's correct (no reason to doubt) it's shocking. Of course their main job is stopping the opposition, but still.for both of them to be so low is poor.

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

Sooo....

We can't score from outside the box.

We can't score from corners.

We can't score from headers.

We can't score from free kicks.

Our defenders can't score.

We don't get penalties.


Chuck in the fact that we never put in any decent crosses and there's no wonder we're staring down the barrel of relegation.

And as ive said before... all this long throw bollocks...

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

And as ive said before... all this long throw bollocks...

barely reaches the front post does he, and everyone stood optimisticly on the penalty spot....haha

 

[bradymk2]

round 40:

saturday 5th april:
luton v leeds - 12.30pm
millwall v portsmouth
oxford v sheff u
preston v stoke
qpr v cardiff
swansea v derby
sheff w v city

closer it's getting, the more nervous i feel to be fair

 

[rovertiger]

Aren't different balls better or worse for long range shots?

Yea, you've either got the balls to try the shot or you haven't.

 

[TigerMarv]

I do miss a goal scoring defender, back in the day Leon Cort won me loads of money from the Bookies

 

[Kalman II]

Obviously it's not easy to score from distance, but these goals do happen for other teams now and again. When we shoot from distance it's as likely to be 10 yards wide or 20 yards over as it is on target. Even when we were good, Seri was terrible for it. A player as talented as him somehow just couldn't keep his shots down when playing for us.

Whenever my dad watches City, he always says ‘Why don’t they shoot from distance more? Even if it’s not a perfect shot, a deflection could take it anywhere’. I kind of agree with him.

I know some aren’t a fan of xG and think it’s all bollocks but it’s actually a really simple stat to understand. If a shot has an xG of 0.47, then it means that if you were to take that exact shot in the same position under the same circumstances 100 times, you would score 47 times out of 100. That’s all it is.

City under Walter underperformed their xG if I remember correctly and that’s consistent with the eye test of watching games. We squandered loads of chances. Our finishing was so poor. Slater has missed about 6 sitters. I wonder what his xG is this season compared to the number of goals he’s actually scored. Gets into great positions then just flubs the shot.

 

[AlRawdah]

Whenever my dad watches City, he always says ‘Why don’t they shoot from distance more? Even if it’s not a perfect shot, a deflection could take it anywhere’. I kind of agree with him.

I know some aren’t a fan of xG and think it’s all bollocks but it’s actually a really simple stat to understand. If a shot has an xG of 0.47, then it means that if you were to take that exact shot in the same position under the same circumstances 100 times, you would score 47 times out of 100.

That’s not what xG is. Of the last 100 shots taken from that part of the pitch with that foot (or head), it measures how many of those efforts went in (in your example, 47). It says nothing about the player taking the chance and everything about the players who have previously taken that chance.

 

[thetiger1966]

I said this last season but it's even more true now - it's crazy how many types of goals we just don't score:

Our defenders never score. They go up for set pieces time after time but it never happens.

We've scored one direct free kick in about five years.

We've not scored or had a penalty since September.

We don't score long range shots. We very rarely even get them on target. Look at Kamara's effort on Saturday going about 10 yards wide after he'd brought it down brilliantly. We're pathetic at shooting from mid/long range.

We very rarely score from crosses. Pedro looked good at attacking crosses for a couple of weeks in the autumn but since then I've barely seen him attack one. Maybe it's less of a feature of Selles' style, but it's another type of goal we never score.

You watch games as a neutral and these goals all happen in other games. It just seems to be a rule that we can't ever score from these typical situations that other teams get a chunk of their goals from. Oh and we don't score in the first half at home. It's no wonder our overall tally is always so low when you look at all the sources of goals that just don't apply to us for some reason.

totally agree, we never score with headers direct from corners, never score from headers direct from free kicks & when we do have a striker who can score with his head (Oscar) we loan him out & then get rid of him, Rosenior more interested in City trying to walk the ball into the net!!
All teams score from crosses into the box except Hull City
(how many do Haarland & Jota score with their head?)
What do they do in training every day, as it’s not really working
The table doesn’t lie & unless City start scoring some goals by any means possible they could well be playing Div1 football in August