Off Topic The QPR Not 606 Rolling Election Poll

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Who will you vote for in the May 2015 UK General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 36 32.4%

  • Green

    Votes: 6 5.4%

  • Labour

    Votes: 17 15.3%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 4 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 18 16.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 3.6%

  • I will not vote

    Votes: 11 9.9%

  • I cannot vote - too young/in prison/in House of Lords/mad

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • I am not a citizen of the UK

    Votes: 13 11.7%
  • Total voters
    111
  • Poll closed .
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sb_73 said:
That's clear Col. Re Scotland, there is the reverse argument, why should a government in Westminster which has virtually no presence in Scotland have a say over Scottish affairs? But it's a circular argument and we've covered it on here before. I think Scotland will go in the next five years - but only if the economy remains on the up. If things are getting rocky again the safety in numbers, blame the other lot mentality will kick back in. Whatever, good luck to them.

Only an idiot would argue that the EU is a flawless organisation, so here goes........no, I'm not that daft. But for once I take a very pragmatic view on this one, reform if possible, but stay in for purely economic reasons. It will become untenable at some stage, this half in, half out attitude. But your point of principle is unarguable (unless of course we really give up sovereignty to an elected European government.......nah).
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Under Blair's government, the Scots were hugely represented in Westminster
 
That is hopefully Labour out of the running for a decade or two.

Tories- not everyone's cup of tea but the best of a bad bunch. A majority for anyone, albeit small, is surely better than the Lib Dems, SNP or UKIP having a say.
 
In many ways this result shows just how reliant the last Labour administration was on the Scottish vote, now they have been decimated by the SNP it will be a long time before they are in power again (that may come back to haunt me in 5 years time) because although they are strong the the metropolitan areas like London (they did very well there), Manchester, Liverpool etc they don't seem to be able to make any in roads into the Conservative vote in the Shires. If they want to govern again they have to win in England and at the moment that looks extremely unlikely.
 
GoldhawkRd said:
I get that they want everything their own way. They're like kids at a party - if they can't control pass the parcel and musical chairs, they want to go home
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There's probably enough evidence on this thread alone to suggest the reverse also applies - play by Westminster's rules or your not invited.

The difference between England and Scotland is fairly fundamental - they just don't want right wing agendas up there. That suggests independence is inevitable if the Tories look likely to remain in power for an extended period (a third term and beyond).

The biggest point from the results that I'd note is that UKIP, if you take them as a single policy protest group (as per their original motive) have actually got their way - a party that backs immigration control and a referendum on Europe. One seat barely seems to matter and I don't doubt they've got a few years of campaigning in the pipeline ahead of the public vote.

Anyway, congratulations to Cameron (perhaps more of a case of the least bad man won -said without malice) and to all you Tory backers (the poll on here was possibly more representative than everyone would have predicted).

Lastly, thanks Stan for making this thread so enjoyable - you contrary views (many I suspect for the cause of debate) and even manner (albeit slightly partisan) have been an absolute pleasure to read. Again, thank you.
 
Tramore Ranger said:
In many ways this result shows just how reliant the last Labour administration was on the Scottish vote, now they have been decimated by the SNP it will be a long time before they are in power again (that may come back to haunt me in 5 years time) because although they are strong the the metropolitan areas like London (they did very well there), Manchester, Liverpool etc they don't seem to be able to make any in roads into the Conservative vote in the Shires. If they want to govern again they have to win in England and at the moment that looks extremely unlikely.
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I'm no expert but can see some of the marginal Labour seats in London being lost next time. Hampstead & Kilburn for example, will surely be posh enough in five years to be blue rather than red.
 
Watford_R said:
I'm no expert but can see some of the marginal Labour seats in London being lost next time. Hampstead & Kilburn for example, will surely be posh enough in five years to be blue rather than red.
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I'm not so sure.
Those Labour supporters are well off champagne socialists. The worst kind imo.
 
Iv never been a one party man but I did vote blue in the end (sorry if that's not popular, please don't hate me).

The one thing that cheered me the most was Mr Balls loosing his seat, I'm not a Labour hater as I also voted for them once.
 
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Swords Hoopster. said:
Its interesting the way you put that Goldie cos that's exactly how UKIP & anti-Euro Conservatives look to me!
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Different perspectives, Swordsie - but the UK had 13 years of labour governments of Blair and Brown that were packed with Scots in the most senior positions. This from a country that represents only 10% of the UK population. No problem here, except that as soon as the coalition came in to sort out a catastrophic financial mess, the SNP shout "We've had enough of being ruled by the Tories". What about the 13 years of Scots domination at Westminster? Oh, say the Scots, Labour under Blair and Brown were just red Tories.

If I could vote for it, I'd vote for Scottish independence now. Devo-max is just another way of saying the SNP government can and will spend lavishly on their voters, and if they overspend, the rest of the UK will pick up the tab.
 
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Can't argue with any of that Goldie.

I guess my eye was caught by COL calling Nicola Sturgeon odious for wanting to break up a union of Nations yet in the next post he himself tells of his desire to do the very same thing.

The Tories will renegotiate the UK's membership of the EU, in other words get a number of concessions, which is exactly the same thing the Sweaty's did & are still doing regarding their membership of the UK. How can one be odious and the other equitable?
 
GoldhawkRd said:
Different perspectives, Swordsie - but the UK had 13 years of labour governments of Blair and Brown that were packed with Scots in the most senior positions. This from a country that represents only 10% of the UK population. No problem here, except that as soon as the coalition came in to sort out a catastrophic financial mess, the SNP shout "We've had enough of being ruled by the Tories". What about the 13 years of Scots domination at Westminster? Oh, say the Scots, labour under Blair and Brown were just red Tories.

If I could vote for it, I'd vote for Scottish independence now. Devo-max is just another way of saying the SNP government can and will spend lavishly on their voters, and if they overspend, the rest of the UK will pick up the tab.
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The Scots voted to stay but have been taking the piss with their increased demands ever since. One rogue poll gave them a whole raft of 'extras' before the referendum and since that vote they've just upped the ante.

Frankly, they should be told if they're not happy with their enhanced lot they can lump it, the rest of the union is just as important. I think the EU referendum may be the tipping point that sees them off...
 
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