Justice is rarely done, whatever/wherever the penal system, most times it's revenge pure and simple, even if those who dish it out would deny it vehemently. Execution is supreme justice, if the crime is severe enough anyway and for the betterment of mankind, execution is a must and here's why: The world is fragmenting quicker than it's coming together, natural resources are dwindling even quicker, but the population increases at a seemingly exponential rate, all of this will come to a head within a generation, unless WWIII starts or there is some kind of worldwide epidemic that would make the Black Death seem like manflu. Add to that, the bizzare idea that everyone has some form of 'human rights', these rights may well be enshrined in laws the world over, they may well be a great idea in principle, but we all know that EVERY country will ditch them in an instant if they feel that they're not representing their populace fairly, or if they just have to do something that contravenes them, Guantanamo, votes for prisoners, political prisoners, war crimes etc. etc. The world (mankind) is one great big hypocritical joke wherever you look, whether in civilised Britain or 'backwards' states like Saudi Arabia, Singapore etc. but one thing really does seperate us from the rest of the animals, the ability to decide things based on ideas, 'morals' and discernible evidence, yet we rarely as a race do this, in fact I can only think of one such case, the eradication of small pox. While we live in such a 'society' we must protect those who are incapable of doing it for themselves, if this means the permanent removal of those who damage the health of the group (mental or physical), then so be it. I'll even go a step further, even though I know this will cause offence to many who can't see the big picture, eugenics is a word with many ugly conotations, but unless some form of worldwide birth control isn't brought in soon, wars over food, water, living space etc. will become more and more frequent and although I've clearly gone off on a tangent here, it's about 'the big picture' and ANYONE who damages society as a whole, needs to be dealt with, permanently.
Very powerful stuff there RR, sadly I can't find the time to take issue with some of the things you said. It's just gone 12.40am here in OZ, so I'll see what I can do tomorrow, again, thanks for the input.
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jeazo some right reactionary ignorant ****wits on here. how many of you speak from experience of prison? likley none. just further proof that empty vessels make the most sound. the reason we lock so many people up in this country is that we invest nothing in alternatives, during the 80's thatcher closesd the mental hospitals and in the name of care in the community and let them live on the streets. do you think its a coincidence that countries with the lowest imprisonment rates also have the lowest reoffending rates and subsequently have lower crime rates? why ? because they invest in helping people not imprisoning them. 60% of those in uk prisons shouldnt be there, they are there because society has no other place for them, had we a proper health and social security safety net then we could get on with rehabilitating/keeping off the streets those hard core criminals society needs protecting from. instead of imprisoning those who need protection from society.
Some of us are also perverted, homosexually suppressed, generally depraved in a seriously unhealthy way and dependent upon chemicals as well you know! Tosser
RR, it would seem that on a world wide basis, according to the UN, figures show that the numbers of children born per woman, is decreasing. It's estimated that the German population will fall by 30pc in the next hundred years, if things don't turn around. It seems that as wealth increases, people are deciding that they don't want large families. Of course most of the world lives in poverty, but the trend even applies even there. So to propose that we need execution the "cull" populations, hardly applies.
I am absolutely incapable of depraved crime. Should that change then I would deserve to hang. I didn't say hang everybody guilty of every crime but I would certainly hang many, many criminals. I'd clear half of our prison population without too much of a problem. Just by hanging every burglar we'd be able to rid ourselves of many thousands of scum who serve no purpose to the planet. As long as it's clear the punishment, then you have no reason to complain should you commit the crime.
