The Price is right?

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Saints_Alive

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May 4, 2011
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After reading that West Ham may bid for Rickie and Arsenal for Luke Shaw I thought it might be fun to play a valuation game...Just supposing that the club recieved bids for all of our first team, what valuation do you think that The Don would put on each player? i.e. what fee would the club accept? (not what you think they're worth).

Paulo Gazzaniga 3m
Nathanial Clyne 5m
Jose Fonte 3.5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 4m
Luke Shaw 10m
Danny Fox 2m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 8m
James Ward-Prowse 10m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 6m
Gaston Ramirez 15m
Guly Do Prado 2.5m
Adam Lallana 12m
Rickie Lambert 10m
Jay Rodriguez 10m
 
Paulo Gazzaniga 1.5m
Nathanial Clyne 6m
Jose Fonte 3.5m
Jos Hooiveld 800k
Maya Yoshida 4m
Luke Shaw 10m
Danny Fox 1.5m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 8m
James Ward-Prowse 8m
Steve Davis 3.5m
Jason Puncheon 4m
Gaston Ramirez 18m
Guly Do Prado 2.5m
Adam Lallana 12m
Rickie Lambert 8m
Jay Rodriguez 12m
Steeeeve 900k
 
Agree with most:
Paulo Gazzaniga 5m
Nathanial Clyne 8m
Jose Fonte 3.5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 3m
Luke Shaw 12m
Danny Fox 2m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 8m
James Ward-Prowse 10m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 6m
Gaston Ramirez 15m
Guly Do Prado 2.5m
Adam Lallana 12m
Rickie Lambert 10m
Jay Rodriguez 10m
 
Pretty fair prices, however i dont think you can price Morgan and JWP the same. Morgan is a proven class act and on the verge of full international honors and JWP although potentially great is still finding his feet.
 
After reading that West Ham may bid for Rickie and Arsenal for Luke Shaw I thought it might be fun to play a valuation game...Just supposing that the club recieved bids for all of our first team, what valuation do you think that The Don would put on each player? i.e. what fee would the club accept? (not what you think they're worth).

Paulo Gazzaniga 3m
Nathanial Clyne 5m
Jose Fonte 3.5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 4m
Luke Shaw 10m
Danny Fox 2m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 8m
James Ward-Prowse 10m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 6m
Gaston Ramirez 15m
Guly Do Prado 2.5m
Adam Lallana 12m
Rickie Lambert 10m
Jay Rodriguez 10m

If it's what the club would accept then I think you're grossly under estimating. Why would we sell gaston for 3 million pounds of profit now? He'll be worth 25mil+ if he continues the way he's going. Only 3 million profit on Jay would be daft young english strikers go for loadssss these days. Adam is the heart of the club and anything under 20million would be scandalous. Morgan, James, Clyne and shaw would also be worth considerably more. Rickie would also not be sold for 10 million.
 
Paulo Gazzaniga 5m
Nathanial Clyne 9m
Jose Fonte 5.5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 4m
Luke Shaw 12m
Danny Fox Packet of crisps
Jack Cork 9m
Morgan Schneiderlin 10m
James Ward-Prowse 8m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 2m
Gaston Ramirez 25m
Guly Do Prado 3m
Adam Lallana 15m
Rickie Lambert 8m
Jay Rodriguez 10m
 
Morgan is a proven class act and on the verge of full international honors

No he isn't.

I'm surprised at how low people are valuing some of the players. I think it would take a daft offer for Cortese to even consider selling one of our first-team players. If Clyne or Cork would really be sold for around £5m, they would have gone by now.
 
Paulo Gazzaniga 3m
Nathaniel Clyne 10m
Jose Fonte 5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 5m
Luke Shaw 15m
Danny Fox 1m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 10m
James Ward-Prowse 10m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 3m
Gaston Ramirez 20m
Guly Do Prado 2m
Adam Lallana 15m
Rickie Lambert 9m
Jay Rodriguez 11m
 
Paulo Gazzaniga 3m
Nathaniel Clyne 10m
Jose Fonte 5m
Jos Hooiveld 2m
Maya Yoshida 5m
Luke Shaw 15m
Danny Fox 1m
Jack Cork 7m
Morgan Schneiderlin 10m
James Ward-Prowse 10m
Steve Davis 5m
Jason Puncheon 3m
Gaston Ramirez 20m
Guly Do Prado 2m
Adam Lallana 15m
Rickie Lambert 9m
Jay Rodriguez 11m

Agree with most of this. However I would value Rickie at 11mill and Jay at 9mill. And Morgan at 15 mill.
 
On reflection, I may have pitched a few of the players a little on the conservative side...Clyne, Fonte, Cork, Ramirez and Lallana would certainly be worth more to us.
Another interesting one would be how much would we sell Billy Sharp and Dean Hammond considering their successful loan spells at Forest and Brighton respectively....I would be disappointed if we sold Billy for less than 5m and Deano must be worth at least 2m.
 
I've been pondering what the whole EPPP thing does to prices.

It seems to me like clubs with Category 1 academies can acquire top youth talent very cheaply now by raiding any club without a Category 1. So IF someone were actually willing to stump 10-15m for Shaw or JWP or the other young-ish talent, it could make sense for a forward thinking club to sell knowing that they may soon be able to turn their academy into a factory and that the price of starlets could soon drop.
 
I've been pondering what the whole EPPP thing does to prices.

It seems to me like clubs with Category 1 academies can acquire top youth talent very cheaply now by raiding any club without a Category 1. So IF someone were actually willing to stump 10-15m for Shaw or JWP or the other young-ish talent, it could make sense for a forward thinking club to sell knowing that they may soon be able to turn their academy into a factory and that the price of starlets could soon drop.

Not sure I would go along with that. The top prospects would be highly coveted so you'd still have to compete with other top clubs for their signatures. If we sold Shaw or Ward-Prowse, we probably wouldn't get equivalent replacements (or their suitors would look elsewhere as well).
 
On reflection, I may have pitched a few of the players a little on the conservative side...Clyne, Fonte, Cork, Ramirez and Lallana would certainly be worth more to us.
Another interesting one would be how much would we sell Billy Sharp and Dean Hammond considering their successful loan spells at Forest and Brighton respectively....I would be disappointed if we sold Billy for less than 5m and Deano must be worth at least 2m.

Well I read the Forest deal for Sharp was 1 mil for the loan and another 2mil if they wanted to sign him on perm.
 
Well I read the Forest deal for Sharp was 1 mil for the loan and another 2mil if they wanted to sign him on perm.

Yeah I've heard similar, would surprise me a little bit if it were true however.

He's on loan presumably because we wanted the option of having him back. If we've agreed a fee already then we don't have that option.
 
After reading that West Ham may bid for Rickie and Arsenal for Luke Shaw I thought it might be fun to play a valuation game...Just supposing that the club recieved bids for all of our first team, what valuation do you think that The Don would put on each player? i.e. what fee would the club accept? (not what you think they're worth).

Paulo Gazzaniga 3m ......2.5m
Nathanial Clyne 5m .......7m
Jose Fonte 3.5m ............3m
Jos Hooiveld 2m .............1m
Maya Yoshida 4m ...........5m
Luke Shaw 10m ..............15m
Danny Fox 2m ................1m
Jack Cork 7m ..................10m
Morgan Schneiderlin 8m ....15m
James Ward-Prowse 10m ...15m
Steve Davis 5m ................3m
Jason Puncheon 6m ...........4m
Gaston Ramirez 15m ...........20m
Guly Do Prado 2.5m ............1.5m
Adam Lallana 12m ...............15m
Rickie Lambert 10m .............10m
Jay Rodriguez 10m ...............10m

my stab
 
On reflection, I may have pitched a few of the players a little on the conservative side...Clyne, Fonte, Cork, Ramirez and Lallana would certainly be worth more to us.
Another interesting one would be how much would we sell Billy Sharp and Dean Hammond considering their successful loan spells at Forest and Brighton respectively....I would be disappointed if we sold Billy for less than 5m and Deano must be worth at least 2m.

5m for Sharp is a little too much as is 2m for Deano. I would say 2-2.5 for Billy and 0.5 to 2m for Deano. Remember the original question was based on what they are worth to us, not the market.