The Premier League Thread
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There you go then. So to all supporters who say that will never happen, off the cuff. Bite your lip. Anything can happen. Even in this stupid uncompetitive league.
And yet big clubs want even more money coming their way, and even less money going to the "also-rans".
I'm fast getting done with football.
I'm fast getting done with football.
Well, yes there is that side. The way football is going it will inevitably destroy itself, or have to change radically, one way or another, because of the greed and increasing lack of competition. Either it will evolve into something along the lines of the NFL, which ironically is almost a socialist form of sport which promotes healthy competition, or it will go ultra capitalistic and the richest clubs will break away, form their own super league, completely detach themselves from what made them a football club in the first place and take most of the money with them. In all honesty, sometimes I wish they'd do it and let the rest engage in proper competition. But really I'm convinced we need to follow the example of the USA.
Now you didn't think I'd be writing a last sentence like that.
I'm hoping for a breakaway, then sit back and watch them drown in all the money. Seems fair to me.
Well, yes there is that side. The way football is going it will inevitably destroy itself, or have to change radically, one way or another, because of the greed and increasing lack of competition. Either it will evolve into something along the lines of the NFL, which ironically is almost a socialist form of sport which promotes healthy competition, or it will go ultra capitalistic and the richest clubs will break away, form their own super league, completely detach themselves from what made them a football club in the first place and take most of the money with them. In all honesty, sometimes I wish they'd do it and let the rest engage in proper competition. But really I'm convinced we need to follow the example of the USA.
Now you didn't think I'd be writing a last sentence like that.
You say that , but you would the really want a league where you effectively play Stoke and west brom every week? You can't win, I'm not sure what will happen in the future but I foresee football as a whole having some sort of "wall Street crash" at some point , the way it's going at the moment just isnt sustainable.
Well we effectively play the same top 6 every season and that's boring enough. No, I would make sure promotion and relegation were still included. But there would be spending caps, salary caps, fairly even distribution of revenues, etc.., for the health of the competition. They would still make enormous amounts of money and the beautiful game would be better for all supporters instead of the few. I'm talking about the traditional four professional leagues here, not just the PL.
I agree completely with your first point, the Championship was fun because we were doing well. Being average in a division that isn't the best is so unappealing. The football will be dull and interest will be minimal when there's a (hypothetical) European super league that people will be able to watch instead.
Whoever thinks the market is going to crash is an idiot. The market for TV rights is only getting bigger with China, India & America all taking a lot more interest in 'Soccer'. It also makes no sense as no one invests their money in football to make money like they do in real estate/stocks etc.
Well, yes there is that side. The way football is going it will inevitably destroy itself, or have to change radically, one way or another, because of the greed and increasing lack of competition. Either it will evolve into something along the lines of the NFL, which ironically is almost a socialist form of sport which promotes healthy competition, or it will go ultra capitalistic and the richest clubs will break away, form their own super league, completely detach themselves from what made them a football club in the first place and take most of the money with them. In all honesty, sometimes I wish they'd do it and let the rest engage in proper competition. But really I'm convinced we need to follow the example of the USA.
Now you didn't think I'd be writing a last sentence like that.
It would take years and a complete revamp of the whole system to get football anywhere close to the NFL in terms of competitiveness. It is so far gone the other way that I would even say it is impossible. There are far too many differences in the set up and the way American football is run and the way the infrastructure within the sport is means that far too much would have to change in too short a period for it ever to be feasible here.
Cannot see any major changes happening as it would only happen if the money ran out. Turkeys won't vote for Christmas.
Exactly, the market might not crash for the " top clubs" , but soon enough its going to next to impossible for the rest to try and even compete. They'll soon break away and leave the rest of football in effectively an ice age.
KOEMAN'S GONE KOEMAN'S GONE - he has the full support of the board!
Be interesting to factor in the overseas revenue, I mean supporters. What is Manchester compared to China? Bugger all basically. Moving to a super league would require them to go global and with it a global view of the fan base. I wouldn't have an issue with it, the super rich clubs add a lot to the league but they take away more IMO. Having had the years of lower league competition I think i got just as much out of being a supporter as I do in the premier league. Away wins at Chelsea and Man U are very sweet tho...