Seen it happen @ junction 27 of the M25, lorry stops on the hard shoulder, back doors open & the interlopers are off like a rat up a drainpipe.
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Talking of war criminals, see Dave is going to suppress the publication of the Iraq report until post referendum. Usual disgusting leftie tactic.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...versial-announcements-ahead-of-eu-referendum/
There's a good point to be made there, but you don't help by calling it 'leftie'.
If I debate with the same tone as Goldie (or Chaz for that matter) I am doing something seriously wrong and I apologise unreservedly. I just like an argument. Everything is a grey area for me, there is no black and white, which is of course a curse. The contrarian in me reacts to the strongly stated stuff, which is Goldies' case is turning into an obvious hatred of all things related to Europe. If the balance of posting on here was all happy clappy the EU is the answer to all our problems I would be reacting to that as well. Though of course my gut feel is more internationalist than isolationist.
I was responding to a question you posed, and I said it wasn't relevant. You asked about our complicity in the holocaust, something I had never thought about before, I spent 3 minutes surfing and was surprised with what I found. But I don't give a **** about who was doing what to who 70 years ago. On your logic we should never talk to Germans, because they are Germans and did terrible things. I don't feel any guilt about Britain's history, neither do I hold present day Latvians or Germans responsible for theirs.
Some things are the EUs fault Goldie, but not everything is. Seriously, what are you going to do if we vote to stay in? Start a resistance movement?
I don't think Goldie should be compared to Chaz tbh.
I'll probably join Goldie's resistance if we vote to remain!
I won't accept ridiculous criticism by Latvians on human rights, lets leave it at that. It's like being lectured by Koreans on dog welfare.
Mostly, I have no problems with Europe.
I doubt that the EU debate is as feisty in the rest of the nation (apart from the Tory party obviously) as it is on here. The more I read and hear of the wider debate, though, the less I feel informed. Here's my simplistic summary of how I currently feel:
Trade: Hard to see any upsides for leaving - STAY
Jobs: Foreign companies would likely relocate - STAY
Immigration: EU immigrants are not the problem - STAY
Security: Both sides disgracefully trying to use Brussels to make their case - NEUTRAL
Sovereignty: I don't feel the heavy hand of Brussels in my everyday life - STAY
Geopolitics: Trump v Putin? - STAY
Personalities: Farage, Johnson, IDS - STAY
Trade: Hard to see any upsides for leaving - STAY
Jobs: Foreign companies would likely relocate - STAY
Immigration: EU immigrants are not the problem - STAY
Security: Both sides disgracefully trying to use Brussels to make their case - NEUTRAL
Sovereignty: I don't feel the heavy hand of Brussels in my everyday life - STAY
Geopolitics: Trump v Putin? - STAY
Personalities: Farage, Johnson, IDS - STAY
why would foreign companies leave
drop corporation taxes and more might come
Because it would most likely be more difficult for them them to sell their goods to Europe from a Brexited UK.
I work for a German company and it's irrelevant if we are part of the EU or not as far as business is concerned.
no
do all foreign companies in the uk close down all their worldwide facilities when they get there
and I assume if foreign companies do move to the uk already they don't just hire foreigners
do all foreign companies in the uk close down all their worldwide facilities when they get there
and I assume if foreign companies do move to the uk already they don't just hire foreigners
Multinationals aren't going to pack up and push off overnight, particularly if they have expensive investments in plant and infrastructure here. But they might think twice about future investments, especially if imports of components becomes more expensive. For financial institutions it's much easier to move around, and without the (ridiculous) 'protection' the City gets because we are in the EU the incentives may be stronger for them to go. Their work forces are multinational anyway.
For a bit , if the £ continues its downwards spiral, the U.K. becomes less attractive to sell to, unless you can increase prices to compensate which isn't always possible. If it is possible then it means inflation and a worse trade deficit for us.
For a bit , if the £ continues its downwards spiral, the U.K. becomes less attractive to sell to, unless you can increase prices to compensate which isn't always possible. If it is possible then it means inflation and a worse trade deficit for us.
If there are trading benefits to being outside the EU, why aren't the Italians, Germans and French leaving? What does IDS, Gove and Boris know that the rest of Europe ( and the rest of us for that matter) don't know?
The Yanks know where to make their foreign direct investments (FDI). A country (Ireland) with 1% of the EU population received 58.1 billion dollars, almost 20% of total FDI made by US firms into the EU in 2014. The figure of 58 billion Dollars has increased from less than 5 billion dollars only 13 years ago.The only country in the world who received more US (FDI) was the Netherlands. We have a lot to lose in the event of a Brexit but we also have an awful lot to gain. The gains are happening already. More and more US foreign direct investment is coming here as a result of the exit speculation and the fact that we would become the only English speaking country in both the Eurozone and EU in the event you lads exit. The Yanks want a presence in the EU and preferably in an English speaking country.
I have visions of the pair of you sipping coffee together in Rene's café in allo allo.
Moaning.
There's a bit of a difference between being a tax haven, which Ireland has become and which Britain under the Tories seems to want to become, and being a proper trading nation. What does Ireland export? What does Britain export for that matter? Not a lot.
Machinery and equipment
Computers
Chemicals
Pharmaceuticals - 60% of the entire world's supply of pharmaceuticals are produced in Ireland.
Food products
Animal products
Total exports in 2015 - 111 billion euros. 111 billion euros of exports and 71 billion euros of imports makes us a trading nation. Not a major player but a trading nation none the less. Lower taxes and lots of other factors encourage the FDI to come here.