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And labour asking for early elections conveniently forgotten
I can’t really take a petition signed by the constantly whinging and a million bots seriously. People put up with the absolute ****e of 14 years of gross ineptitude and corruption and kick off now over nothing. Lost, get over it etc. Those still alive in four years or so can vote them out if they do such an awful job.
As Bill Maher always points out, this image depicts Trump jerking off two guys at the same time.
Vote on the Assisted Dying Bill tomorrow, I don’t think it will pass, because huge numbers of Labour MPs are ****ting themselves on how to exercise a free vote without being told what to do and there has been subtle briefing that having to implement the bill would hinder the rest of the Government’s programme.
I think this shows (another) flaw with Parliamentary process. If they were voting on the principle of assisted dying and the circumstances it would apply in (although assisted suicide would be a more appropriate term) rather than the detail of a bill to implement it we would know how many MPs are prepared to ignore the clear wishes of their constituents (apart from a few Muslim majority constituencies) to follow whatever their ‘consciences’ say. If the principle is accepted, as two thirds of the electorate want (and most of the rest are ‘undecided’), the next step should be a bill to implement it. As it is the opposition is partly on principle - religious like Mahmood - or on allegedly practical grounds like Streeting. As a result we don't know what these ‘ooh we need to fix palliative care/ judges don’t have enough time/ people might think they are a burden*’ really believe on the principle.**
Interesting concept of democracy. We ‘the people’ get a referendum on something as insanely complex as membership of the EU, which impacts on the whole population regardless of how they vote, but have to rely on our ‘representatives’ (not delegates, note) to decide for us on whether we, as individuals, should have to option of ending our lives early in certain circumstances which only impacts us as individuals.
* hey, guess what. Some people with complex needs as they reach the end of their lives really are a burden to their families and friends. They shouldn’t be compelled to end their lives because of it but I’m sick of ‘they might feel that they are a burden’ when they actually are a burden. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
** Badenoch at least has been explicit - she strongly supports the principle but strongly doubts whether the British state is currently competent to deliver assisted dying, so she will vote against.
I think this shows (another) flaw with Parliamentary process. If they were voting on the principle of assisted dying and the circumstances it would apply in (although assisted suicide would be a more appropriate term) rather than the detail of a bill to implement it we would know how many MPs are prepared to ignore the clear wishes of their constituents (apart from a few Muslim majority constituencies) to follow whatever their ‘consciences’ say. If the principle is accepted, as two thirds of the electorate want (and most of the rest are ‘undecided’), the next step should be a bill to implement it. As it is the opposition is partly on principle - religious like Mahmood - or on allegedly practical grounds like Streeting. As a result we don't know what these ‘ooh we need to fix palliative care/ judges don’t have enough time/ people might think they are a burden*’ really believe on the principle.**
Interesting concept of democracy. We ‘the people’ get a referendum on something as insanely complex as membership of the EU, which impacts on the whole population regardless of how they vote, but have to rely on our ‘representatives’ (not delegates, note) to decide for us on whether we, as individuals, should have to option of ending our lives early in certain circumstances which only impacts us as individuals.
* hey, guess what. Some people with complex needs as they reach the end of their lives really are a burden to their families and friends. They shouldn’t be compelled to end their lives because of it but I’m sick of ‘they might feel that they are a burden’ when they actually are a burden. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
** Badenoch at least has been explicit - she strongly supports the principle but strongly doubts whether the British state is currently competent to deliver assisted dying, so she will vote against.
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cant remember if we had a referendum on it here but the kill your granny act was passed here a few years ago
General Election here tomorrow. No doubt given the conveluted voting process and transfer of votes we'll end up with a coalition of probably 3 parties in power......Fina fail, Fina Gael and Sinn Fein running fairly close to each other.... FF & FG have already said they won't go into power with SF, so if SF are the largest party they'll have to work with the smaller Labour, Green's or/and assorted despot Independent's, that included some that are so far left they make Corbyn look like a moderate as well a tax defraudar and bankrupt.......
We have so much quality.......
We have so much quality.......
If there was a none of the above box, they'd get my support......
The only thing for certain is that it won't be SF.....
Handy having the president as dad
No doubt trump will pardon himself and his mates in four years
No doubt trump will pardon himself and his mates in four years
yea, he'll pardon them all again. He set the precedent by doing it 4 years ago
Putin now too busy backing his mate Assad to start sabre rattling. The Syrian rebels now have access to anti-aircraft weaponry which they liberated when taking territory from the regime, so hopefully he'll lose more planes, something he can't afford to do.
Complete ****-show in Syria, with hour different factions fighting for control of different regions - Assad in trouble, should've listened to Erdogan whrn he was offered a chance to re-integrate himself into the mainstream political arena
Damascus will fall by next weekend, Erdoğan backing HTS who have effectively blown Assad's fragile hold on the country. They are 'liberating' cities with little or no tribal or ethic retribution
Endless flights shuttling between Damascus and Dubai as the Alawite elite do a runner with their billions
Now all the Syrian efugees in Lebanon heading home
Endless flights shuttling between Damascus and Dubai as the Alawite elite do a runner with their billions
Now all the Syrian efugees in Lebanon heading home
For anyone not up to speed with what's going on in Syria, really recommend listening to this if you want a full synopsis of what is happening...
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/1vxxKmtyMq1Jt7fAfT3pZa?si=AvTgDpUpTgm2OY21oYRDYw