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‘No history whatsoever’ - after one google search:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-presenter-andrew-neil-mislead-14969304
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11...-fake-tory-statistics-general-election-video/
https://evolvepolitics.com/bbc-pres...-fake-figures-to-spin-tory-economic-failures/
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2021/01/11/truth-and-trust-correcting-the-record-and-andrew-neil/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...ils-brexit-supply-chain-claims-question-time/
https://theconversation.com/uk-elec...-much-of-a-problem-are-doctored-videos-126897
https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...iers-haul-out-a-daft-conspiracy-theory-about-
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-presenter-andrew-neil-mislead-14969304
Regarding the alleged NASA graph, he put it out without context but implying that the issue of climate change is either exaggerated or improving. I have supplied the official NASA perspective on this.

James O’Brien is simply the other side of the same coin, I have no doubt that he spreads equally false crap. Both these creeps, part of the odious class that loves the sound of its own voice and has opinions for money, make my skin crawl. But pointing out the sins of one does not absolve or disprove the sins of the other.

Best to ignore both, neither are sources of authority in anything.

I like James O’B. Brextards don’t like the truth much.
 
People like things that they agree the **** out of. Big surprise. O’Brien genuinely gives me the creeps, possibly to a greater extent than Neil does. What a **** way to make a living, humiliating people who aren’t as educated or eloquent as him. Bravo.

Educating the masses I’d argue.
 
‘No history whatsoever’ - after one google search:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-presenter-andrew-neil-mislead-14969304
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11...-fake-tory-statistics-general-election-video/
https://evolvepolitics.com/bbc-pres...-fake-figures-to-spin-tory-economic-failures/
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2021/01/11/truth-and-trust-correcting-the-record-and-andrew-neil/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...ils-brexit-supply-chain-claims-question-time/
https://theconversation.com/uk-elec...-much-of-a-problem-are-doctored-videos-126897
https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...iers-haul-out-a-daft-conspiracy-theory-about-
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-presenter-andrew-neil-mislead-14969304
Regarding the alleged NASA graph, he put it out without context but implying that the issue of climate change is either exaggerated or improving. I have supplied the official NASA perspective on this.

James O’Brien is simply the other side of the same coin, I have no doubt that he spreads equally false crap. Both these creeps, part of the odious class that loves the sound of its own voice and has opinions for money, make my skin crawl. But pointing out the sins of one does not absolve or disprove the sins of the other.

Best to ignore both, neither are sources of authority in anything.

I always liked Andrew Neil after he was polite to me at the airport after everyone else was their usual horrible selves.
O’Brien just comes over as a horrible, bullying **** who spouts the same old bollox that his fanboys lap up with glee.
 
‘No history whatsoever’ - after one google search:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-presenter-andrew-neil-mislead-14969304
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11...-fake-tory-statistics-general-election-video/
https://evolvepolitics.com/bbc-pres...-fake-figures-to-spin-tory-economic-failures/
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2021/01/11/truth-and-trust-correcting-the-record-and-andrew-neil/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...ils-brexit-supply-chain-claims-question-time/
https://theconversation.com/uk-elec...-much-of-a-problem-are-doctored-videos-126897
https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...iers-haul-out-a-daft-conspiracy-theory-about-
Regarding the alleged NASA graph, he put it out without context but implying that the issue of climate change is either exaggerated or improving. I have supplied the official NASA perspective on this.

James O’Brien is simply the other side of the same coin, I have no doubt that he spreads equally false crap. Both these creeps, part of the odious class that loves the sound of its own voice and has opinions for money, make my skin crawl. But pointing out the sins of one does not absolve or disprove the sins of the other.

Best to ignore both, neither are sources of authority in anything.

Most of those sources I've never heard of, Stan. The Canary? Evolve Politics? They sound like extreme news outlets with no interest in impartiality.

Neil is a loud voice on the media stage. I hope his tweet will be challenged if he has misrepresented the position. That graph is currently being posted widely on Twitter, so there'll be plenty of opportunity for criticism of it. Haven't see much yet, but its early days.

As far as James O'Brien is concerned, his foray into TV lasted weeks - he got sacked by the left wing editor of Newsnight for being too left wing. He's a shock-jock of the Jeremy Kyle variety.

Neil has a long and illustrious career even if he did overegg his criticism of the SNP's disasterous education record.
 
Most of those sources I've never heard of, Stan. The Canary? Evolve Politics? They sound like extreme news outlets with no interest in impartiality.

Neil is a loud voice on the media stage. I hope his tweet will be challenged if he has misrepresented the position. That graph is currently being posted widely on Twitter, so there'll be plenty of opportunity for criticism of it. Haven't see much yet, but its early days.

As far as James O'Brien is concerned, his foray into TV lasted weeks - he got sacked by the left wing editor of Newsnight for being too left wing. He's a shock-jock of the Jeremy Kyle variety.

Neil has a long and illustrious career even if he did overegg his criticism of the SNP's disasterous education record.

O’Brien is far from left wing. More Neo-Liberal
 
O’Brien is far from left wing. More Neo-Liberal


I think you're right to make that distinction. You'll have to educate me sometime, Stainsey :emoticon-0100-smile

Stainesy doesn't know what the term neo-liberal means Goldie, that's not what what O'Brien is. Nor is he far left, though - I'd categorise him as centre-left.

It seems to me that a few people on here have a false impression of O'Brien's show and should try listening to it.
 
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I suppose as many times as people on here post stuff suggesting that man-made climate change isn't real.

I would have said that "man-made climate change" is real, but whether little ol' Britain should be cutting off its nose to spite its face to further reduce its estimated 1-2% contribution is debatable. I read somewhere recently that any carbon reduction we're able to achieve will be very quickly more than offset by the coughsplatters being churned out by China, India, Vietnam etc. I don't particularly want to ride around everywhere on a bicycle eating turnips for the rest of my naturals.
 
Stainesy doesn't know what the term neo-liberal means Goldie, that's not what what O'Brien is. Nor is he far left, though - I'd categorise him as centre-left.

It seems to me that a few people on here have a false impression of O'Brien's show and should try listening to it.
i.e me. I have listened to it, a long time ago. He doesn’t humiliate people all the time, but it made me cringe along with his enormous self regard. In the same way that stuff on GB News and Jeremy Clarkson makes me cringe. I just have a thing about people who have opinions for money, I can’t help it. Sorry.
 
i.e me. I have listened to it, a long time ago. He doesn’t humiliate people all the time, but it made me cringe along with his enormous self regard. In the same way that stuff on GB News and Jeremy Clarkson makes me cringe. I just have a thing about people who have opinions for money, I can’t help it. Sorry.

I think he may well have evolved from the person you describe.

James O’Brien: ‘I saw everything as a fight’ | Talk radio | The Guardian

I've only been listening to him for the past 4 or 5 years and have very rarely heard him humiliate anybody and certainly never gratuitously. He genuinely wants to have his views challenged and often admits to having had his mind changed by callers or contributors. His second book was even called How Not to be Wrong: The Art of Changing Your Mind.
 
i.e me. I have listened to it, a long time ago. He doesn’t humiliate people all the time, but it made me cringe along with his enormous self regard. In the same way that stuff on GB News and Jeremy Clarkson makes me cringe. I just have a thing about people who have opinions for money, I can’t help it. Sorry.

Apology accepted.
 
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