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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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Probably not. There are loads of benefits to a four day week. No one does anything on a Friday afternoon anyway.

Less commuting, happier employees, better retention of staff, health benefits (mental and physical) and more.

It’s not right for everyone but generally if you treat your staff like adults they’ll do what they need to do and get the job done regardless of whether in an office or not or doing 5x8 hour shifts/4x10 hours.

You're speaking as a middle class, white collar worker.

How does a busy council refuse collector that works to rigid hours, fit five days into four? A - it doesn't, the council just hires more people to pick up the fifth day work, and the council taxpayers pick up the tab.
 
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You're speaking as a middle class, white collar worker.

How does a busy council refuse collector that works to rigid hours fit five days into four? A - it doesn't, the council just hires more people to pick up the fifth day work, and the council taxpayers pick up the tab.

Yeah it’s not necessarily going to work in every role but as with everything it’s not a race to the bottom and it’s a way of making roles more attractive in a tough market.

Why can’t refuse collectors do four longer days rather than five shorter ones? Presumably once upon a time many people did six days (some still do). I don’t honestly see the issue in at least trialling these things. If they don’t work then you go back to how it was. If it does work then it’s a great recruitment tool even without the other benefits.
 
Lovely jubbly foster care, that will set them up for life....give them quite a few emotional scars no doubt.

Look I am far from saying it wasn't wrong.I am trying to get you to at least understand the emotions and desperation here ...and also perhaps that a custodial sentence was not the right option.

My wife an I Fostered for a few years & I can assure you the children in our care didn't leave with emotional scars & there are many more caring people doing the same
 
Yeah it’s not necessarily going to work in every role but as with everything it’s not a race to the bottom and it’s a way of making roles more attractive in a tough market.

Why can’t refuse collectors do four longer days rather than five shorter ones? Presumably once upon a time many people did six days (some still do). I don’t honestly see the issue in at least trialling these things. If they don’t work then you go back to how it was. If it does work then it’s a great recruitment tool even without the other benefits.

Are you suggesting Labour put forward a proposal in its manifesto that manual workers should increase their daily working hours from 8 to 10?
 
Are you suggesting Labour put forward a proposal in its manifesto that manual workers should increase their daily working hours from 8 to 10?

I think companies should have the option. It shouldn’t be mandatory but it’s a benefit companies can offer where suitable. If the work is so tough it’s impossible to do 10 but you can do 8 then obviously it won’t apply to them.
 
I think companies should have the option. It shouldn’t be mandatory but it’s a benefit companies can offer where suitable. If the work is so tough it’s impossible to do 10 but you can do 8 then obviously it won’t apply to them.

12 hour shifts are great. Less days spent at work and many more days off. I would hate to work shorter shifts
 
Are you not ?

Why would I be? Russia has the launch codes, makes no difference where they're kept.

Putin has been making nuke threats for decades. If he's stupid enough to launch one NATO and China will turn Moscow to dust.
 
Exactly. Firemen used to do four days on and four off which I’m sure helped attract people to the profession in the absence of other benefits and relatively **** money.
It can be a killer knowing you’ve got 4 x 12 hour night shifts ahead of you but in outlet place they’ve even started to limit it to 3 only.
Just got a new roster which is bit all over the place but at certain points it means only take 2 shifts as leave and get 8 days off. Plus another couple of times I get 6 and 7 rest days in a block.
I’d recommend it to anyone
 
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12 hour shifts are great. Less days spent at work and many more days off. I would hate to work shorter shifts
Exactly. Firemen used to do four days on and four off which I’m sure helped attract people to the profession in the absence of other benefits and relatively **** money.

What you've shown is that occupations that are compatible with longer shifts, already have them. Try convincing a refuse collector to do a 12 hour shift in 30 degrees C or -5 degrees C in winter.
 
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It can be a killer knowing you’ve got 4 x 12 hour night shifts ahead of you but in outlet place they’ve even started to limit it to 3 only.
Just got a new roster which is bit all over the place but at certain points it means only take 2 shifts as leave and get 8 days off. Plus another couple of times I get 6 and 7 rest days in a block.
I’d recommend it to anyone

No we want you in an office from 9-5:30 Monday to Friday. If anyone dies outside of those hours it’s on them.
 
What you've shown is that occupations that are compatible with longer shifts, already have them. Try convincing a refuse collector to do a 12 hour shift in 30 degrees C or -5 degrees C in winter.

I’d give them the choice. If it’s 4x10 or 5x8 I’d honestly expect most to pick the four. Maybe I’m wrong. Majority wins. Maybe some of them move to another council offering four longer shifts. Maybe some move to another job entirely.
 
Why would I be? Russia has the launch codes, makes no difference where they're kept.

Putin has been making nuke threats for decades. If he's stupid enough to launch one NATO and China will turn Moscow to dust.

But isn’t Lukashenko hinting that (he) would use them if Belarus was attacked ? Of course that goes against what Putin has said, however would you believe any of them ?
 
But isn’t Lukashenko hinting that (he) would use them if Belarus was attacked ? Of course that goes against what Putin has said, however would you believe any of them ?

Who would attack Belarus? It's just more empty threats and posturing.

FYI Putin publically admitted Russia blew up the dam. I know people who have issues with Ukraine weren't convinced.
 
Who would attack Belarus? It's just more empty threats and posturing.

FYI Putin publically admitted Russia blew up the dam. I know people who have issues with Ukraine weren't convinced.

There is a very distinct possibility that if things escalated that Ukraine could attack Belarus or Russia direct.

Didn’t hear the Putin thing…have you got any links ?