Off Topic The Politics Thread

[sb_73]

Why weird?
I don't necessarily agree with all the cancelled events etc, but surely it's all borne out of respect?

The main problem for all governing bodies in sport and all industry is that they can't afford to get it wrong, considering the blame and cancel society we're currently having to endure.

I just like the odd symmetry of one group showing respect by going to work, and another by not doing it’s job. Although I don’t personally agree I can understand the BBC media and football authorities avoiding stuff that could be seen as inappropriately entertaining (Theatres, museums and art galleries seem to be taking a more balanced approach). I don’t see how that can apply to managing the economy, especially in times of crisis.

Though judging by your second sentence it might be that the motivation might be fear of the consequences of not showing respect, rather than the wish to show respect.

The only other social media I use apart from this is LinkedIn (and very rarely for that). Last few days company after company has been posting pictures of the Queen and paying ‘respects’ on behalf of their employees. They look really false and kind of creepy, especially as the vast majority of these companies have no relationship to the monarchy at all. Posts by individuals are obviously sincere, and sometimes properly moving.

“weird scenes inside the goldmine” is a line from the Doors song, The End.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

What do you find most ridiculous?

Delaying what is presumably a very important interest rate rise which will affect millions of people.

That and cancelling kids’ football.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Delaying what is presumably a very important interest rate rise which will affect millions of people.

That and cancelling kids’ football.


Actually scrap that. This wins.

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[Uber_Hoop]

Delaying what is presumably a very important interest rate rise which will affect millions of people.

That and cancelling kids’ football.

So, out of all the events this week that you’ve been Britain’s Premier Comic on, the subject that’s got you most animated is the interest rate announcement delay? R-I-g-h-t.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I just like the odd symmetry of one group showing respect by going to work, and another by not doing it’s job. Although I don’t personally agree I can understand the BBC media and football authorities avoiding stuff that could be seen as inappropriately entertaining (Theatres, museums and art galleries seem to be taking a more balanced approach). I don’t see how that can apply to managing the economy, especially in times of crisis.

Though judging by your second sentence it might be that the motivation might be fear of the consequences of not showing respect, rather than the wish to show respect.

The only other social media I use apart from this is LinkedIn (and very rarely for that). Last few days company after company has been posting pictures of the Queen and paying ‘respects’ on behalf of their employees. They look really false and kind of creepy, especially as the vast majority of these companies have no relationship to the monarchy at all. Posts by individuals are obviously sincere, and sometimes properly moving.

“weird scenes inside the goldmine” is a line from the Doors song, The End.

LinkedIn used to be about business but is now an opportunity for individuals to virtue signal to their heart’s content.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

So, out of all the events this week that you’ve been Britain’s Premier Comic on, the subject that’s got you most animated is the interest rate announcement delay? R-I-g-h-t.

Not animated but it is hugely important and a ridiculous decision to delay. I’ve refrained from posting on the official mourning thread.

 

[sb_73]

LinkedIn used to be about business but is now an opportunity for individuals to virtue signal to their heart’s content.

It’s kind of collapsed and seems unmanaged except by its marketing department. The algorithm thinks ‘retired’ is a job and keeps on asking me to connect with other because they have the same ‘job’. Also it has allowed its data to be mined by middle men who sell on contact details to bottom feeding consultancies. I used to get two or three unwanted calls a week from poor people who had been duped into thinking that major corporations spend money on cold call offers from organisations which haven’t been certified through procurement governance.

Still, it’s been useful in getting back in touch with some old friends, and I like seeing how some proud dads support their offspring on it, especially as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are just too creepy to countenance for me.

 

[Steelmonkey]

LinkedIn used to be about business but is now an opportunity for individuals to virtue signal to their heart’s content.

I've had a few jobs out of it, but some of the drivel people post on there is ridiculous - thank **** I don't do other socials, I couldn't be bothered reading about these individuals inane lives

 

[SW Ranger]

I’m sure many organisations feel a moral, and respectful, obligation to post their condolences. Which is OK - they’re not saying anything bad. It doesn’t have to be considered false.

I don’t get those who, just because they don’t believe in the monarchy, feel they must put an effort in to run down the feelings of others and the way in which our country deals with it.
If you’re not a fan of the monarchy it’s OK, but you don’t have to express it to everyone in negative terms like some badge of honour.
I feel fine that people don’t like or approve of the monarchy or find the death of a monarch as a big deal. Sometimes it’s quite appropriate to keep them to yourselves. I have different sentiments but that’s OK too. We are a world of different sentiments.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I’m sure many organisations feel a moral, and respectful, obligation to post their condolences. Which is OK - they’re not saying anything bad. It doesn’t have to be considered false.

I don’t get those who, just because they don’t believe in the monarchy, feel they must put an effort in to run down the feelings of others and the way in which our country deals with it.
If you’re not a fan of the monarchy it’s OK, but you don’t have to express it to everyone in negative terms like some badge of honour.
I feel fine that people don’t like or approve of the monarchy or find the death of a monarch as a big deal. Sometimes it’s quite appropriate to keep them to yourselves. I have different sentiments but that’s OK too. We are a world of different sentiments.

They do it because they are the exact thing they accuse others of being.

 

[sb_73]

I’m sure many organisations feel a moral, and respectful, obligation to post their condolences. Which is OK - they’re not saying anything bad. It doesn’t have to be considered false.

I don’t get those who, just because they don’t believe in the monarchy, feel they must put an effort in to run down the feelings of others and the way in which our country deals with it.
If you’re not a fan of the monarchy it’s OK, but you don’t have to express it to everyone in negative terms like some badge of honour.
I feel fine that people don’t like or approve of the monarchy or find the death of a monarch as a big deal. Sometimes it’s quite appropriate to keep them to yourselves. I have different sentiments but that’s OK too. We are a world of different sentiments.

Are you referring to comments on here? I have to say I think it’s been very respectful, particularly about the Queen as an individual. Only surprised that that idiot Sinclair and others got so much coverage on the ‘official’ RIP thread. Those comments could have been on the Twitter thread, and broader debate on this one. Both can be done calmly.

 

[SW Ranger]

Are you referring to comments on here? I have to say I think it’s been very respectful, particularly about the Queen as an individual. Only surprised that that idiot Sinclair and others got so much coverage on the ‘official’ RIP thread. Those comments could have been on the Twitter thread, and broader debate on this one. Both can be done calmly.

Not generally on here, no Sb. Just comments from friends and acquaintances who have had comments made to them.
Generally I see that people are very respectful to the events and to the Royal Family and are mostly surprised at the emotions that they have felt when Elizabeth II passed away.

 

[kiwiqpr]

I’m sure many organisations feel a moral, and respectful, obligation to post their condolences. Which is OK - they’re not saying anything bad. It doesn’t have to be considered false.

I don’t get those who, just because they don’t believe in the monarchy, feel they must put an effort in to run down the feelings of others and the way in which our country deals with it.
If you’re not a fan of the monarchy it’s OK, but you don’t have to express it to everyone in negative terms like some badge of honour.
I feel fine that people don’t like or approve of the monarchy or find the death of a monarch as a big deal. Sometimes it’s quite appropriate to keep them to yourselves. I have different sentiments but that’s OK too. We are a world of different sentiments.

Don't think jaki put too much thought into it when she put her badge of honour on

 

[Stroller]

They do it because they are the exact thing they accuse others of being.

Who are you referring to?

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Who are you referring to?

The sort that spout vitriol and hate towards people with opposing views, particularly on Twatter, yet whose profiles say stuff about love and tolerance. There’s a lot of ‘em.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

The sort that spout vitriol and hate towards people with opposing views, particularly on Twatter, who’s profiles say stuff about love and tolerance. There’s a lot of ‘em.

And the amazing thing is, they just can't see the irony of it. Elizabeth II was half Scottish, so that chippy celebrating her death so publicly was plain dumb.

 

[kiwiqpr]

And the amazing thing is, they just can't see the irony of it. Elizabeth II was half Scottish, so that chippy celebrating her death so publicly was plain dumb.

Ex chippy

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Not at all, a daft ideologue. But it’s the standard deflection response to any point made about a Tory minister (‘oooh, what about Abbott etc). Diane Abbott has absolutely zero chance of getting in to the historically weak Labour shadow cabinet, let alone an actual cabinet.

Are you a fan of Therese Coffey for Health Secretary? We’ve had plenty of unhealthy looking people in that role over the years (Ken Clarke? Even Nye Bevan was a bit of a porker) but she seems spectacularly poorly placed to deliver messages about looking after yourself.

If you didn't know her name, you would think she was Ken Clarke's sister.

 

[Stroller]

Caught a bit of Charles' 'swearing in' yesterday and was struck by the fact that he had to say something about defending the 'true protestant faith' in Scotland. Seemed to jar a bit.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Caught a bit of Charles' 'swearing in' yesterday and was struck by the fact that he had to say something about defending the 'true protestant faith' in Scotland. Seemed to jar a bit.

Charles takes a broader view and will be defence of faiths

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...er-of-the-faith-but-also-a-defender-of-faiths