Off Topic The Politics Thread

[rangercol]

Get a grip mate…..just ‘cos I comment on the whole bizarreness of the whole thing about which country people represent, doesn’t mean I’m making a personal attack on the girl.
She’s lovely I’m sure

I don't get what's bizarre about her playing for Britain.
I've agreed that some others over the years have been very dodgy, but she grew up from aged 2 here.

 

[rangercol]

The girl has known nothing else but being British. Lived here since she was 2. Educated in Britain. 100% tennis trained in Britain. She's a British citizen.

Precisely.

 

[Staines R's]

I don't get what's bizarre about her playing for Britain.
I've agreed that some others over the years have been very dodgy, but she grew up from aged 2 here.

So what others are in your opinion ‘dodgy’ ?
I’m guessing Zola Budd is one….How about Eion Morgan ? Played for Ireland now for England…dodgy or acceptable ?
Where do you see a cut off ? As long as they are here by 2 years old…5 years old or maybe 18 years old ?

I feel I have to emphasise yet again, it’s not her personally, she seems a genuinely nice kid…however it’s the whole ‘she’s one of our own’ bollox from middle England that I’m reading that boils my piss.

 

[Saf]

So what others are in your opinion ‘dodgy’ ?
I’m guessing Zola Budd is one….How about Eion Morgan ? Played for Ireland now for England…dodgy or acceptable ?
Where do you see a cut off ? As long as they are here by 2 years old…5 years old or maybe 18 years old ?

I feel I have to emphasise yet again, it’s not her personally, she seems a genuinely nice kid…however it’s the whole ‘she’s one of our own’ bollox from middle England that I’m reading that boils my piss.

Don't let an 18 year old girl winning something representing your country do that to you

 

[Staines R's]

Don't let an 18 year old girl winning something representing your country do that to you

What you on about you plumb. ?

 

[Saf]

What you on about you plumb. ?

I'm a plumb?

I'm not that one who's piss is boiling because a lass has chosen to represent the country of which she is a citizen and is being supported by all the other citizens of her country

 

[rangercol]

So what others are in your opinion ‘dodgy’ ?
I’m guessing Zola Budd is one….How about Eion Morgan ? Played for Ireland now for England…dodgy or acceptable ?
Where do you see a cut off ? As long as they are here by 2 years old…5 years old or maybe 18 years old ?

I feel I have to emphasise yet again, it’s not her personally, she seems a genuinely nice kid…however it’s the whole ‘she’s one of our own’ bollox from middle England that I’m reading that boils my piss.

I agree that the cut off point is the difficulty. I suppose to remove all doubt there should be a rule that you must be born in the Country you represent and have at least one parent from that Country. I personally would be ok with that and obviously Emma would then be excluded.
Cricket has always been an area I've been uncomfortable with and no I wouldn't have Morgan or Pieterson and others before them.
Obviously, if they're there I'm going to cheer for them.
I'm comfortable with, say, someone growing up here from under the age of 3 or something, thereby meaning that all they know is Britain as in Emma's case. They are fully entitled to be British citizens and represent us imo.
Living here for a few years as an adult till you qualify as a citizen shouldn't allow you to represent this Country imo.
In Emma's case I actually do feel 'she's one of our own'.
Morgan and many others aren't I agree.

 

[Staines R's]

I'm a plumb?

I'm not that one who's piss is boiling because a lass has chosen to represent the country of which she is a citizen and is being supported by all the other citizens of her country

Except that’s not what I said boils my piss…but you carry on.
I sure the Daily Mail will do a centre page spread for you all to read, while having a front page headline about those horrible immigrants coming over to kill us….pure hypocrisy

 

[Staines R's]

I agree that the cut off point is the difficulty. I suppose to remove all doubt there should be a rule that you must be born in the Country you represent and have at least one parent from that Country. I personally would be ok with that and obviously Emma would then be excluded.
Cricket has always been an area I've been uncomfortable with and no I wouldn't have Morgan or Pieterson and others before them.
Obviously, if they're there I'm going to cheer for them.
I'm comfortable with, say, someone growing up here from under the age of 3 or something, thereby meaning that all they know is Britain as in Emma's case. They are fully entitled to be British citizens and represent us imo.
Living here for a few years as an adult till you qualify as a citizen shouldn't allow you to represent this Country imo.
In Emma's case I actually do feel 'she's one of our own'.
Morgan and many others aren't I agree.

Thats my point though Col…it’s about opinions it seems in where there’s a cut off…I’m not saying your wrong and I’m right but surely if it’s just in opinions about who qualifies or not then that’s what makes it a mockery ?
Not looking for a row with you honestly.

 

[rangercol]

Thats my point though Col…it’s about opinions it seems in where there’s a cut off…I’m not saying your wrong and I’m right but surely if it’s just in opinions about who qualifies or not then that’s what makes it a mockery ?
Not looking for a row with you honestly.

I think we pretty much agree to be honest.
There certainly will be racist anti all immigrants ****ers cheering Emma on, but I suppose that's always been the case, even idiot racists abusing Sterling and cheering when he scores for England.
Possibly two separate issues, admittedly linked.

 

[Staines R's]

I think we pretty much agree to be honest.
There certainly will be racist anti all immigrants ****ers cheering Emma on, but I suppose that's always been the case, even idiot racists abusing Sterling and cheering when he scores for England.
Possibly two separate issues, admittedly linked.

Absolutely mate. They are the ones that piss me off.

 

[rangercol]

Absolutely mate. They are the ones that piss me off.

Me too.
I don't think there's anyone on here like that though.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Every single person that i know is either judgemental, prejudice, racist, anti immigrant etc from judging someone by their haircut to the colour of their skin, from tattoos to their country of origin, from accent to the way they dress. We all do it at some point in our live, success in a certain field, waters that down yet it really shouldnt. I am chuffed this lass one the tennis, its a great story but would she have been taken into the brittish hearts if she had got knocked out in the qualifiers?

Had she been knocked out in the qualifiers then we would have known she was british

 

[kiwiqpr]

I remember not long ago there was chat about being able to play for the country you played your club football in, now that would have been a step too far!

Works in rugby

 

[Staines R's]

Works in rugby

Don’t Australia and NZ nick all the decent players from the Pacific Islands ?

 

[kiwiqpr]

Few kiwis been in the England team

 

[rangercol]

Every single person that i know is either judgemental, prejudice, racist, anti immigrant etc from judging someone by their haircut to the colour of their skin, from tattoos to their country of origin, from accent to the way they dress. We all do it at some point in our live, success in a certain field, waters that down yet it really shouldnt. I am chuffed this lass one the tennis, its a great story but would she have been taken into the brittish hearts if she had got knocked out in the qualifiers?

She was taken into British hearts last year at Wimbledon Bob, even though she had to retire with exhaustion/anxiety etc.
I take your point, but in individual sport it's usually people who do well that get noticed.

I think the reason Emma is getting so much attention is that she's an 18 year old qualifier who has won a grand slam and looks like she could get to the very top in her sport.
I'd have raved about her if she was from Outer *****lia mate.

 

[Staines R's]

She was taken into British hearts ladt year at Wimbledon Bob, even though she had to retire with exhaustion/anxiety etc.
I take your point, but in individual sport it's usually people who do well that get noticed.

I think the reason Emma is getting so much attention is that she's an 18 year old qualifier who has won a grand slam and looks like she could get to the very top in her sport.
I'd have raved about her if she was from Outer *****lia mate.

I loved Eddie the Eagle

 

[Staines R's]

Every single person that i know is either judgemental, prejudice, racist, anti immigrant etc from judging someone by their haircut to the colour of their skin, from tattoos to their country of origin, from accent to the way they dress. We all do it at some point in our live, success in a certain field, waters that down yet it really shouldnt. I am chuffed this lass one the tennis, its a great story but would she have been taken into the brittish hearts if she had got knocked out in the qualifiers?

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[rangercol]

I loved Eddie the Eagle

True, me too.