Off Topic The Politics Thread

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How many times do you see neighbours giving interviews after some murder/crime and say about the murderer...”you would never have thought him/her capable of such a deed....he/she seemed so nice”.
Goes back to what I said earlier....we’ve all got it in us if the circumstances are there.
Further to that, what can make us possible of these sort of things.....upbringing ? And if that’s the case should we not feel sorrow and pity for people who commit crimes like that.
For example, Rose West was abused in the most heinous way by her family as a child, both physically and sexually...but does that give some understanding, and in some way some reasoning behind the crimes she did. Would be hard to feel sorry for her, however it’s difficult to feel that giving a decent upbringing, things might not of happened like they did.....or would it ?

this. I guess this is the right winger in me. I would understand some people have bad upbringings and this will shape what a person becomes and it is a tragedy. At the same time, even though i know it's not all of their fault that a person can create a heinous crime, that still doesn't negate the fact that they did and are a dangerous and troubled person and need to be incarcerated for the greater good of society.
 
ironically, i'm a sucker for the redemption story in films. It must be for the worst of crimes with regards to the above comment.
 
this. I guess this is the right winger in me. I would understand some people have bad upbringings and this will shape what a person becomes and it is a tragedy. At the same time, even though i know it's not all of their fault that a person can create a heinous crime, that still doesn't negate the fact that they did and are a dangerous and troubled person and need to be incarcerated for the greater good of society.

Totally understandable and I do agree mostly Bobby....there is no right or wrong way in thinking.
So therefore should we look at *****philes who have been abused themselves as children, as also victims of their own circumstance and treat them instead of punishing them ? Personally I’d find it very hard to do, however logic tells me that would be a better approach than just locking them up.
Of course some are just born evil, the psychopaths of this world, and no matter what these kind cannot be helped, as sad as it is.

Interesting debate......
 
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If it happened where the photos are. It is on an open street,not in a park.
The area is also actually rather "nice" too.

Yes I know that obviously means nothing.. the worse crimes often take place in nice places

The area in the newspapers is the Poynders Gardens Estate, a pre-war council estate which one of my old golfing partners lived in. The 'nice' bit is towards the Common, go the other way and there's some really rough council flats full of druggie lowlife. Like much of London you can have highly desirable areas very close to absolute shyteholes. Gentrification is working through it but very slowly. She would have been walking towards the less desirable area but on the South Circular which is open and well lit along that stretch. I doubt she would have thought it dangerous at that time...
 
The area in the newspapers is the Poynders Gardens Estate, a pre-war council estate which one of my old golfing partners lived in. The 'nice' bit is towards the Common, go the other way and there's some really rough council flats full of druggie lowlife. Like much of London you can have highly desirable areas very close to absolute shyteholes. Gentrification is working through it but very slowly. She would have been walking towards the less desirable area but on the South Circular which is open and well lit along that stretch. I doubt she would have thought it dangerous at that time...

When I did the Knowledge I always found it strange how you could be in an area with x million pound mansions in one minute...and the next be in the poorest of crime ridden areas
 
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What's the 'government bitch thread', who are the 'in crowd' or the 'usual suspects', and where do they go to 'self indulge' each other? I need to know.


Ffs @bobmid was in charge of invites to the ‘love in’ you’re definitely invited but keep it to yourself as someone is not. We don’t want a gatecrasher.
 
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That cop has now been charged with suspicion of murder.
First arrest last night was kidnap and further arrest today suspicion of murder.
Not good.
 
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I think I read something about indecent exposure too somewhere. Sounds like the guy was out of control, and lost normal cautionary behaviour
I thought that indecent exposure charge was a bit weird. You maybe right on him losing it. The mail has already posted his picture and stuff about him.