Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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Getting awfully tetchy on here. The problem seems to be that you are arguing over when Boris announced what, and when he then changed his mind about it and announced something different. Trouble is there have been so many changes you'll just end up going round in cycles on this one. Numbers in the UK are now much better than in France, which wasn't the case a while ago...rumours are that we are heading back into lock down, and will be under curfew from this weekend.
 
At least if you are going to debate this, stick to the point.
I have already said (previously) that Boris was stupid to say what he did in the house on the 16th as the new data made him look silly.
However
We were told just before Christmas that new data showed a steep rise in infections and Christmas was basically over.

Starmer was Colonel Foresight then.
 
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I’m definitely not claiming Johnson has caused the death of 100k + people, I merely suggested that to hold him up as a hero in this would probably not be best advised to be saying to the families of those who have lost their lives through this pandemic.

Johnson and his government have made some serious mistakes from telling the nation he went into a hospital and shook hands with the patients, backing Cummings and creating a one rule for them situation, the repeated late lockdowns, the track and trace fiasco, the contracts to businesses with either no track record or ill equipped to provide product and services, refusing to shut the boarders.. the list goes on.

The one thing I think everyone can congratulate this government with is the gamble of buying up the vaccines at very early stages, it has proven to be a great decision and other nations holding back on that decision has put the U.K. well ahead of the curve there. The NHS and the healthcare system have to take a lot of praise for how well the roll out has gone as well.

To claim Johnson is in part responsible for 100k + deaths is about as crazy a suggestion as to say his and his government’s actions or lack of in some cases aren’t in part responsible for any.
 
But they were upfront with people. At the time they thought Christmas was okay due to data but a few days later the data came out and contradicted it. There was plenty of warning as I recall many moaning about not seeing family at Christmas. I would like to see Starmer try and be an opposition rather than a grinch... but that won't happen.
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Stop talking rubbish. The new variant may have been known for weeks but new data was released just before Christmas which changed things. As I said, I remember it well because as a family we took the decision just before Christmas for that reason.
I dont even know where to begin with that!!
 
Let's be honest, even the simplest folk in the country knew that 'saving xmas' was an absolute moronic thing to say or try and do. Johnson and co just made themselves look ****ing dafter than they are by doing so. It was right up there with choosing to keep the borders open on the basis that the virus was already amongst us along with opening schools for a vital single day! Throw in 'eat out to help out' and a 10pm curfew on pubs just to help increase infection rates. If only they had used another imaginary protection ring similar to that of the care homes!
 
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Posting something from December 23rd has nothing to do with anything, you embarrassing apologist for the government overseeing the worst death toll of any large country in the entire world.
You're not next door neighbours are you? If so is there any prospect of the two of you shacking up together in a bubble for the remainder of the lockdown?. 50% of all posts on these two threads must be between you.
 
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Seriously, wtf kind of a world are we becoming?

Should they get rid of the moustache too?

Do you honestly think that this has been called for? To me this is almost certainly nothing more than a marketing ploy to get some free advertising
 
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Seriously, wtf kind of a world are we becoming?

Should they get rid of the moustache too?

Indeed - all potatoes should be outraged that their feelings haven't been taken into account. The potato society has been enslaved to the human race for too long, providing them sustenance without any thoughts to the pain it has caused, especially the King Edwards and Jersey Royals who have been wolfed down by generations of heartless Brits.

Viva the potato revolution!

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my assessment on this is clouded by my own view, which he has all but admitted to "we all do things we regret when we are drunk" that he was a nasty egotist and who when he thought he could get away with it.. was a sexual predator. I have experienced this myself (yuck!) and so can well believe what he said about himself.

Assume you mean Salmond and not Andrew Neil! Yes, nasty piece of work. But Sturgeon has questions to answer about withholding material information on the affair from the Scottish Parliament, and then lying about it, and now redacting documents that could incriminate her. Banana republic is right
 
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Good we don't need her in this country. She has a Bangladeshi status, she can go there.

Agreed. As I understand it, she can still appeal her citizen status, but if she is not here to do it, it's a whole lot harder. I have zero sympathy for her. Anyone who follows ISIS and conducts their style of terror has psychopathic tendencies imo
 
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