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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
West WindsR said:
I’d like to think the millions of people who fell through the cracks the first time around have been helped properly by now.
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Magic money tree comes to mind. Truth is you don't have a clue and just keep moaning about everything they try to do.
Boring
 
Steelmonkey said:
Great programme - do you guys get it down there? One of my mates daughters is in it
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No, I have not seen it. There is a program I saw in Australia once which was spot on and very funny but would never be aloud to be shown here as we would get all the yoghurt knitters kicking off.
 
ELLERS said:
Magic money tree comes to mind. Truth is you don't have a clue and just keep moaning about everything they try to do.
Boring
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There is a magic money tree. Sadly it was cut down for track and trace. There’s always cash for vanity projects or to line the right donor’s pocket.

80000 dead and it’s on your lot.
 
West WindsR said:
Feel free to explain from your position of greater knowledge than someone like me who doesn’t have a clue then.
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So '80,000 dead is on 'my lot?' what a stupid pathetic response. The reason why we have 80K dead is because we are in a pandemic you fool.
Did 'my lot' give the vast majority of the dead underlining health issues?
Did 'my lot' give a large proportion of those dead terminal diseases?
Did 'my lot' make the vast majority over 80?
I won't even mention the deaths in other countries... is that 'my lots' fault as well?
What a stupid sod you are today. All this is about, is your hatred for this government and this country. if you think you can do better move away to China you numpty.
 
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ELLERS said:
So '80,000 dead is on 'my lot?' what a stupid pathetic response. The reason why we have 80K dead is because we are in a pandemic you fool.
Did 'my lot' give the vast majority of the dead underlining health issues?
Did 'my lot' give a large proportion of those dead terminal diseases?
Did 'my lot' make the vast majority over 80?
I won't even mention the deaths in other countries... is that 'my lots' fault as well?
What a stupid sod you are today. All this is about, is your hatred for this government and this country. if you think you can do better move away to China you numpty.
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After that reasoned analysis I’ve seen the light. Go Boris!
 
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ELLERS said:
So '80,000 dead is on 'my lot?' what a stupid pathetic response. The reason why we have 80K dead is because we are in a pandemic you fool.
Did 'my lot' give the vast majority of the dead underlining health issues?
Did 'my lot' give a large proportion of those dead terminal diseases?
Did 'my lot' make the vast majority over 80?
I won't even mention the deaths in other countries... is that 'my lots' fault as well?
What a stupid sod you are today. All this is about, is your hatred for this government and this country. if you think you can do better move away to China you numpty.
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My lot have made mistakes Watford and I hope at a later date if there is gross negligence then they should be dealt with. I think we should accept that this is a pandemic and sadly it is going to kill people. In 2014-15 flu killed 51,000 in the UK. Who do we blame for that?
 
Pestfix Untested, unused coveralls £32,000,000
Various Unused coveralls £687,000,000
Various Inaccurate antibody tests £75,000,000
DHSC Salford Testing Trial forced to stop and scale back £500,000,000
Randox Laboratories Unsafe test kits £133,000,000
Ayanda Capital Unsuitable face masks £150,000,000
Serco Broken tracing system £108,000,000
Sitel Broken tracing system £84,000,000
NHSX Abandoned contact-tracing app £11,800,000
Various Cancelled ventilator challenge £454,000,000
Various Useless antibody tests £16,000,000
TAEG energy Hand sanitiser firm was dormant £43,800,000
Edenred Delayed school meal vouchers £234,000,000
Computacenter Failed on computers for disadvantaged pupils £60,000,000
Public First Opinion research £956,000
Treasury Job Retention Bonus £2,600,000,000
Department for International Trade Luxury trade negotiation £700,000

Torys may have just put one of their magic money trees straight into the fire.. although you can't make Torys, Tory Donors and friends of Torys that way
 
ELLERS said:
My lot have made mistakes Watford and I hope at a later date if there is gross negligence then they should be dealt with. I think we should accept that this is a pandemic and sadly it is going to kill people. In 2014-15 flu killed 51,000 in the UK. Who do we blame for that?
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Mistakes are forgivable to an extent. No one is denying that and no government will have got every decision correct.

Ideological decisions aren’t. That’s always been the difference and one you’ve never accepted.
 
West WindsR said:
Mistakes are forgivable to an extent. No one is denying that and no government will have got every decision correct.

Ideological decisions aren’t. That’s always been the difference and one you’ve never accepted.
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From day one I said the government were new and many MP's were young and lacked a bit of experience. Some mistakes were made at the beginning and even those will have counter arguments but this was an unprecedented event and it is easy for people like us on social media to complain. During this time I believe there has been a few voices who will always look for negatives. Funny I noticed one on the 'clique thread' yesterday when discussing how well the vaccine roll-out is going. A few of those voices are just political point scoring or/and some are just anti-government. As Rishi said to Dodds yesterday that it's not helpful.

I am a firm believer and (I think there is enough evidence to back this up) that the virus has spread faster because people have disregarded the guidelines. Forget all this 'mixed messages' crap. We as individuals are responsible for our own actions. People have been slack and disrespectful from Cummings to the SNP lady, from football players to the 1200 at that rave last week. The government can't control these actions and it's up to us.

A good example was my chat with my nurse friend at the weekend via Zoom. She looked tired and basically f22ked. I avoided Covid but she actually brought it up in the conversation. I was surprised by what she said, by the way she was in tears at one point. She told me how people abused her at the hospital, she has been threatened, screamed at, sworn at, all for trying to save lives. She didn't blame the government or anyone else (although she did say that she was annoyed that people didn't take it seriously.) She also said that she had seen a few younger people die (most with underlining problems.) but if society acts like that to a Nurse or Staines when he is called out or those police being attacked at that 'non believer' demo what chance do we have? It just comes down to respect. And sadly we really do have some f22kwits in this country.

To keep blaming the government and coming out with ridiculous remarks like "80k dead and it's on your lot" is wide of the mark and not understand where the real problem lies.
 
Willhoops said:
Pestfix Untested, unused coveralls £32,000,000
Various Unused coveralls £687,000,000
Various Inaccurate antibody tests £75,000,000
DHSC Salford Testing Trial forced to stop and scale back £500,000,000
Randox Laboratories Unsafe test kits £133,000,000
Ayanda Capital Unsuitable face masks £150,000,000
Serco Broken tracing system £108,000,000
Sitel Broken tracing system £84,000,000
NHSX Abandoned contact-tracing app £11,800,000
Various Cancelled ventilator challenge £454,000,000
Various Useless antibody tests £16,000,000
TAEG energy Hand sanitiser firm was dormant £43,800,000
Edenred Delayed school meal vouchers £234,000,000
Computacenter Failed on computers for disadvantaged pupils £60,000,000
Public First Opinion research £956,000
Treasury Job Retention Bonus £2,600,000,000
Department for International Trade Luxury trade negotiation £700,000

Torys may have just put one of their magic money trees straight into the fire.. although you can't make Torys, Tory Donors and friends of Torys that way
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Did you cut and past that of your anarchist sites?
 
Interesting that Merkel and Alexie Navalny (Russian dissident) have criticised Twitter for banning Trump. Unaccountable, big tech companies exercising censorship while at the same time closing down competitor sites (Parler)
 
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