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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
Johnson regularly puts his foot in his mouth, speaking as an ex-journalist known for colourful expressions. He's equally forgiving. Look at what Gove said about him when he was competing with Theresa May for the leadership of the Tory Party.

Biden and Harris will have no love for him, but it's one thing having a personal hump, another exercising the pragmatism of leaders of one of the great world powers. The fact is, beyond the politicians petty bickering, the US and UK depend on each other strongly on stuff like military intelligence for security. And, despite Brexit, there's a lot of views Johnson and Biden will share like climate change, Iran, Russia, China, trade and human rights

Biden will go off to Continental Europe and Ireland before the UK, but ultimately he'll have to put the personal stuff aside and deal with the UK government
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Excellent post thanks Goldie
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
I'm not saying Biden is a ****phile. I'm just saying he has, at the least, been creepy around woman and Kamala Harris has criticized him for it.

And I wasn't going out of my way to have a go at Biden, Finglas, particularly in light of his greatest success. I was merely pointing out that Harris has a reputation as a balls breaker and doesn't hold back when she has something to say[/QUOTE/]

My problem with the whole Biden is creepy thing is whilst possibly a touch over familiar and is not 100 % decent in that respect it has been a touch of a stitch up from the Trump campaign and supporters hunting through every picture they have creating a narrative that is mostly bullshit, where and this is never an excuse for inappropriate behaviour Trump himself has over 20 formal allegations of sexual assault, has made numerous vastly inappropriate comments about women including about his own daughter, has made comments supporting the likes of Roy Moore, the madam in the Epstein case amongst others, has paid off women to keep quiet about affairs whilst coverting the religious traditionalists.

I find it baffling that people, not saying you, can criticise Biden on this narrative and ignore and then promote Trump.
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Trump clearly has had issues with women. But read the Guardian extract I put up, Will, and you will see Biden has. And there are some really - let's say, awkward - clips of him manhandling young girls who look really uncomfortable. That doesn't make him a ****phile but it is creepy. He's had some massive sadness in his life, losing a child and his first wife to a car accident, and then his son to cancer. May that's affected him in that way. I don't know.

But if Kamala Harris has attacked Biden for how he treats women - and she has - then this speaks more loudly than if it comes from a Trump supporter
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Trump clearly has had issues with women. But read the Guardian extract I put up, Will, and you will see Biden has. And there are some really - let's say, awkward - clips of him manhandling young girls who look really uncomfortable. That doesn't make him a ****phile but it is creepy. He's had some massive sadness in his life, losing a child and his first wife to a car accident, and then his son to cancer. May that's affected him in that way. I don't know.

But if Kamala Harris has attacked Biden for how he treats women - and she has - then this speaks more loudly than if it comes from a Trump supporter
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As I’ve mentioned not suggesting you’re incorrect but and I think you’d agree that was an angle pushed leading up to the election, I honestly believe it was twisted and the amount of comments I’ve heard calling him a peedo suggests it’s resonated with some voters is frightening. And it was pushed in an effort to support someone who is undeniably considerably worse in this area, which is weird.
 
Willhoops said:
As I’ve mentioned not suggesting you’re incorrect but and I think you’d agree that was an angle pushed leading up to the election, I honestly believe it was twisted and the amount of comments I’ve heard calling him a peedo suggests it’s resonated with some voters is frightening. And it was pushed in an effort to support someone who is undeniably considerably worse in this area, which is weird.
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Actually, I hadn't heard the **** thing before the election, but I agree, it's really not relevant because what's been seen is no more than awkwardness. The complaints women have made against him may be relevant, have been kept quiet in the MSM and we may not have heard the last of these
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Actually, I hadn't heard the **** thing before the election, but I agree, it's really not relevant because what's been seen is no more than awkwardness. The complaints women have made against him may be relevant, have been kept quiet in the MSM and we may not have heard the last of these
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Maybe he can do a Trump and wave a load of money till they go away.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Johnson regularly puts his foot in his mouth, speaking as an ex-journalist known for colourful expressions. He's equally forgiving. Look at what Gove said about him when he was competing with Theresa May for the leadership of the Tory Party.

Biden and Harris will have no love for him, but it's one thing having a personal hump, another exercising the pragmatism of leaders of one of the great world powers. The fact is, beyond the politicians petty bickering, the US and UK depend on each other strongly on stuff like military intelligence for security. And, despite Brexit, there's a lot of views Johnson and Biden will share like climate change, Iran, Russia, China, trade and human rights

Biden will go off to Continental Europe and Ireland before the UK, but ultimately he'll have to put the personal stuff aside and deal with the UK government
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Absolutely this. A very well reasoned response here
 
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Turns out the brilliant new trade deal the Tories have secured with Japan has resulted in lower taxes on just 10 out of 9,444 products.

Still, ten is better than none, right?

Not really, we don't actually export any of these products to Japan anyway.
 
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