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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
You can all download the European anthem and get it to No 1 this week if you don't want to celebrate or you can do a Lord Lucan like many on here that thought Jezza could win the GE. <laugh>

Who thought Corbyn would win the election? Not my recollection on here.
 
If a request came in from the States to send Andrew over to answer questions or face trial for contempt and perjury it would be tempting to deny that request until Mrs Suck-ooh-lass was handed over in chains to face justice over here. Well for a moment anyway. After very quick second thoughts, they can have him.
 
If a request came in from the States to send Andrew over to answer questions or face trial for contempt and perjury it would be tempting to deny that request until Mrs Suck-ooh-lass was handed over in chains to face justice over here. Well for a moment anyway. After very quick second thoughts, they can have him.

I see where you’re coming from but would send the wrong message overall. Our well-known, most elite nonces deserve even more scrutiny than randoms from Rochdale.
 
So you don't think the UK has had help from it's European friends in the last century? Really <laugh>
That thousand years you speak of the Romans, Saxons and Normans might disagree but never mind about all that, selective history is a lovely thing.

Er...Will, the Romans and the Saxons came here longer than 1000 years ago. Romans came 2000 years ago. Saxons 1600 years ago.
 
So you don't think the UK has had help from it's European friends in the last century? Really <laugh>
That thousand years you speak of the Romans, Saxons and Normans might disagree but never mind about all that, selective history is a lovely thing.

Er.....Britain was last invaded when?
 
So whose trade is more important? US or China.....

Huawei set for limited role in UK 5G networks

By Leo KelionTechnology desk editor
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The UK has decided to let Huawei continue to be used in its 5G networks but with restrictions, despite pressure from the US to block the firm.

The Chinese firm will be banned from supplying kit to "sensitive parts" of the network, known as the core.

In addition, it will only be allowed to account for 35% of the kit in a network's periphery, which includes radio masts.

And it will be excluded from areas near military bases and nuclear sites.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had previously suggested that use of Huawei's equipment posed a spying risk, saying that "we won't be able to share information" with nations that put it into their "critical information systems".

"Huawei is reassured by the UK government's confirmation that we can continue working with our customers to keep the 5G rollout on track," the firm's UK chief Victor Zhang said in a statement.

"It gives the UK access to world-leading technology and ensures a competitive market."

A document published by the National Cyber Security Centre indicates that the UK's networks would have three years to comply with the caps on the use of Huawei's equipment.

'Strategic defeat'
The Prime Minister had faced pressure from the US and some Conservative MPs to block the Chinese tech giant on the grounds of national security.

A Trump administration official has said the US "is disappointed" with the decision.

Beijing had warned the UK there could be "substantial" repercussions to other trade and investment plans had the company been banned outright.

The choice has been described as the biggest test of Boris Johnson's post-Brexit strategy to date.

Newt Gingrich, a Republican and former Speaker of the US House of Representatives, described it as a "strategic defeat" for his country.

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Huawei has always denied that it would help the Chinese government attack one of its clients. The firm's founder has said he would "shut the company down" rather than aid "any spying activities".

Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat, former chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, tweeted that the government's "statement leaves many concerns and does not close the UK's networks to a frequently malign international actor".
 
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So whose trade is more important? US or China.....

Huawei set for limited role in UK 5G networks

By Leo KelionTechnology desk editor
  • 3 hours ago

You must log in or register to see images

The UK has decided to let Huawei continue to be used in its 5G networks but with restrictions, despite pressure from the US to block the firm.

The Chinese firm will be banned from supplying kit to "sensitive parts" of the network, known as the core.

In addition, it will only be allowed to account for 35% of the kit in a network's periphery, which includes radio masts.

And it will be excluded from areas near military bases and nuclear sites.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had previously suggested that use of Huawei's equipment posed a spying risk, saying that "we won't be able to share information" with nations that put it into their "critical information systems".

"Huawei is reassured by the UK government's confirmation that we can continue working with our customers to keep the 5G rollout on track," the firm's UK chief Victor Zhang said in a statement.

"It gives the UK access to world-leading technology and ensures a competitive market."

A document published by the National Cyber Security Centre indicates that the UK's networks would have three years to comply with the caps on the use of Huawei's equipment.

'Strategic defeat'
The Prime Minister had faced pressure from the US and some Conservative MPs to block the Chinese tech giant on the grounds of national security.

A Trump administration official has said the US "is disappointed" with the decision.

Beijing had warned the UK there could be "substantial" repercussions to other trade and investment plans had the company been banned outright.

The choice has been described as the biggest test of Boris Johnson's post-Brexit strategy to date.

Newt Gingrich, a Republican and former Speaker of the US House of Representatives, described it as a "strategic defeat" for his country.

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Huawei has always denied that it would help the Chinese government attack one of its clients. The firm's founder has said he would "shut the company down" rather than aid "any spying activities".

Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat, former chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, tweeted that the government's "statement leaves many concerns and does not close the UK's networks to a frequently malign international actor".
strange one this. I would not have gone with them.
 
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strange one this. I would not have gone with them.

We're a long way down the road with them though. I've been installing Huawei kit for Vodafone, O2 and EEs 4G networks for the last 5 years, and have just started a project ripping out Samsung 4G equipment for Three and replacing it with Huawei, gearing up for their 5G network. The knock-on effect of this news will slow down the roll-out of 5G across the UK, and this will effect multiple buisnesses (including my own :headbang: - although I should be able to work with any new OEM once their equipment has been chosen for roll-out).

Got to agree with you though Ellers, I wouldn't have touched them in the first place, but they were cheap and years ahead of their competitors.
 
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We're a long way down the road with them though. I've been installing Huawei kit for Vodafone, O2 and EEs 4G networks for the last 5 years, and have just started a project ripping out Samsung 4G equipment for Three and replacing it with Huawei, gearing up for their 5G network. The knock-on effect of this news will slow down the roll-out of 5G across the UK, and this will effect multiple buisnesses (including my own :headbang: - although I should be able to work with any new OEM once their equipment has been chosen for roll-out).

Got to agree with you though Ellers, I wouldn't have touched them in the first place, but they were cheap and years ahead of their competitors.
Funny country China. On Radio 4 today an artist was doing some art project and was arrested as were the people who supported him on Twitter. I think Boris put himself in a corner by bragging about faster broadband and stuff.
The thing that worries me is that we can't even stop some 20 year old in a bedroom in Moscow taking down the NHS system... What could the secret state do?
 
Funny country China. On Radio 4 today an artist was doing some art project and was arrested as were the people who supported him on Twitter. I think Boris put himself in a corner by bragging about faster broadband and stuff.
The thing that worries me is that we can't even stop some 20 year old in a bedroom in Moscow taking down the NHS system... What could the secret state do?

While Corbyn was basically treated like a child molester for daring to suggest free broadband. Funny old world.