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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

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    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Stroller said:
Ooh, a bit of reverse snobbery? Class is not something that bothers me normally, but you seem to be a bit obsessed about Labour and the working classes, so I thought I'd ask the question. Not sure I have a definition for it, but my upbringing would certainly have been considered working class. Why would you suspect otherwise - just so I fit your bonkers theory?
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It was a genuine question.
There seem to be a lot of different measures of whether one is working class.
Is it based on your upbringing or on your own life.
My dad was a professional in the legal profession so I've always thought that made me middle class.
However, I don't have professional qualifications so I'm never sure.

Anyway, I'm not obsessed about it, more just curious.

I'd rather move away from all tags, including left and right wing etc.

I wasn't trying to be snobby.
 
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rangercol said:
It was a genuine question.
There seem to be a lot of different measures of whether one is working class.
Is it based on your upbringing or on your own life.
My dad was a professional in the legal profession so I've always thought that made me middle class.
However, I don't have professional qualifications so I'm never sure.

Anyway, I'm not obsessed about it, more just curious.

I'd rather move away from all tags, including left and right wing etc.

I wasn't trying to be snobby.
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As I said, my upbringing was distinctly working class -. my father was a factory worker, union man and passionate defender of workers' rights, whilst my mother did homeworking on top of looking after three kids in a small two-bed rented flat in Harlesden. Both my parents were very intelligent but never really got the education or opportunities to exploit that intelligence. Based on my own situation in life, most would probably consider me middle class, but in my head I remain working class. I will always support the political party that does most to promote equality of opportunity, that does most to protect and improve the NHS, that does most to protect and improve workers' rights and that best supports the welfare state. The Tories will never be that party and the Tories will never be the party that represents the working class, as you contend they do currently.
 
Stroller said:
As I said, my upbringing was distinctly working class -. my father was a factory worker, union man and passionate defender of workers' rights, whilst my mother did homeworking on top of looking after three kids in a small two-bed rented flat in Harlesden. Both my parents were very intelligent but never really got the education or opportunities to exploit that intelligence. Based on my own situation in life, most would probably consider me middle class, but in my head I remain working class. I will always support the political party that does most to promote equality of opportunity, that does most to protect and improve the NHS, that does most to protect and improve workers' rights and that best supports the welfare state. The Tories will never be that party and the Tories will never be the party that represents the working class, as you contend they do currently.
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Good post.
This class thing is probably a bit of a red herring. As you say, it's more about how you identify yourself I suppose.

I'm not saying the Tories have cracked it as the party of "the working class", but I do believe that millions of working class people voted Tory for the first time and it's now down to the Tories to live up to the billing.
You say there's no chance of that happening and that's fair enough.

I'm willing to wait and see if they can.

I'll never agree that people as far left as Corbyn, McDonnell etc getting into power will ever be good for this Country or it's people .

I'd definitely consider voting for a centre left party, at some point in the future if I agreed with enough of their policies and believed they could deliver it.
 
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