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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%

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    Votes: 61 52.1%
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Stroller said:
It wasn't the manifesto that lost Labour the election. It was Corbyn and Brexit.
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Yes, those were two of the three reasons. The other was a fantasy manifesto where everything was free and the electorate knew that, coming off Labour's near bankrupting the country by 2010, there was no way these promises would be met within a prudent fiscal budget. As Labour got more desperate, they promised more billions each day.
 
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Stroller said:
It wouldn't be a surprise if the Communist party preferred Labour to the Tories would it? You called the current Labour party communists which is ridiculous.
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Hundreds of labour party members and ex MPs have said the same.
The communist party didn't stand down in favour of Blair did it?

You're in denial.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Yes, those were two of the three reasons. The other was a fantasy manifesto where everything was free and the electorate knew that, coming off Labour's near bankrupting the country by 2010, there was no way these promises would be met within a prudent fiscal budget. As Labour got more desperate, they promised more billions each day.
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Spot on.
People saying that the manifesto was popular completely miss the point that everyone would be in favour of a wish list which promises the earth.
Most voters realised that it was pie in the sky and many voted Tory for the first time.
The Tories have an opportunity here to finally shake off their image of only being for the rich.
Labour has now taken on that mantal and completely lost the working class.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Yes, those were two of the three reasons. The other was a fantasy manifesto where everything was free and the electorate knew that, coming off Labour's near bankrupting the country by 2010, there was no way these promises would be met within a prudent fiscal budget. As Labour got more desperate, they promised more billions each day.
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The manifesto itself was fully costed and funded and was endorsed by many leading economists. Where I would agree with you is that Corbyn/McDonnell undermined their own credibility by adding unfunded promises, particularly the WASPI thing which was a big mistake.
 
rangercol said:
You're in denial.
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They are all in denial... blaming everyone except themselves. Corbyn was unelectable, betrayed voters and created a fantasy manifesto. That's the reason they lost the election. Thank god we will never have that muppet as PM.
It still makes me laugh how anyone actually thought Corbyn could ever win? <laugh>
 
Stroller said:
It wouldn't be a surprise if the Communist party preferred Labour to the Tories would it? You called the current Labour party communists which is ridiculous.
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The communist party is generally regarded as far left.
Are you claiming that Corbyn isn't hard left in his views?
 
Clearly looks like the new leader will be Corbyn in a skirt, anyone remotely Centre-Left hasn't got a prayer...

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Stroller said:
The manifesto itself was fully costed and funded and was endorsed by many leading economists. Where I would agree with you is that Corbyn/McDonnell undermined their own credibility by adding unfunded promises, particularly the WASPI thing which was a big mistake.
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Nationalisation and a 32 hour working week were simply impossible to cost. That's generally accepted by even left-wing media like Channel 4. On top of all the other Labour spending promises, it came across to the electorate as barking
 
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rangercol said:
The communist party is generally regarded as far left.
Are you claiming that Corbyn isn't hard left in his views?
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Labour should be left of centre. The Labour manifesto wasn't particularly 'far' left and didn't propose anything that isn't common in other European countries. You're fixated on Commies and Marxists.
 
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ELLERS said:
Oh dear Greta Funbags has made herself look stupid. First class Greta!!! <laugh>
Greta Thunberg gets into Twitter spat with 'overcrowded' German railway service Deutsche Bahn after she tweeted photo of herself sitting on a carriage floor (but doesn't how she was moved to a First Class seat!)
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She's being found out regularly now she's in the spotlight...

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wor...flying-to-new-york-to-bring-gretas-boat-back/
 
kiwiqpr said:
They didn't know what they were voting for
Can we have a people's election
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let's re run it because of the lies and if not we will take it to the supreme court (which Boris is disbanding) :emoticon-0102-bigsm
Where's Gina Millar when you need her? Looks like she has disappeared along with Glen!
 
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