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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Anyone who has visited Brighton through the past ten years that the Greens have controlled the council and latterly with her as MP could not fail to notice what a total shytehole the place has become...

Brighton is a great town. Unique and vibrant with lots of independent shops and **** to do. Not cheap though.
 

Interesting read. Particularly interesting to note previous Labour wins, in 1945, 1966 and 1997 and the factors that contributed to those wins...'it (the Labour Party) has had a compelling national story. Though the party’s promise to “rebuild Britain” after a decade of austerity hinted at such a narrative, this was never developed with the consistency required - and Corbyn and the party were never regarded as credible messengers.'

Makes me wonder if they may have done any better if they had been more opposed to Brexit. Very unpopular with many, but for lots of others it would have clearly set them apart from the Conservatives and at least given people something to think about.
 
And therein lies your problem .
Your inability to ever see anyone else's world view, other than your skewed version means you'll forever be on the losing side.
All left leaning people seem to be the same.

It's really sad.

Jesus Col, you must have been saving this **** up. I'm with Watford, you still seem angry. Chill, you won, everything's going to be good isn't it?

It is, isn't it?

Trade deals sorted, NHS sorted, crime sorted, no immigration unless you earn £30k (so no nurses or care workers) and no one will pay any more tax.

I can't wait.
 
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Yeah, that's good.

As a natural Labour supporter I'm able to 'take some positives' out of this debacle. Corbyn had become a liability, but won't be around next time. Brexit won't be a factor next time. Most important though, are the age demographics. The18-24 age group split 57-19 in favour of Labour, whereas over 65s spilt 62-18 for the Tories.

Life expectancy is decreasing.
 
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Yeah, that's good.

As a natural Labour supporter I'm able to 'take some positives' out of this debacle. Corbyn had become a liability, but won't be around next time. Brexit won't be a factor next time. Most important though, are the age demographics. The18-24 age group split 57-19 in favour of Labour, whereas over 65s spilt 62-18 for the Tories.

Life expectancy is decreasing.

I've heard of playing the long game, but this takes it to another level! :emoticon-0100-smile
 
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Corbyn Road residents want to change street's name because Labour leader is now linked to 'racism and failure' after stronghold swings blue for first time
  • Corbyn Road in Dudley, West Midlands, gained their first ever Tory MP yesterday
  • Brexiteer Macro Longhi, 52, beat Labour's Melanie Dudley by 11,533 votes
  • Residents now believe house prices could plummet and want name changed
By Lara Keay For Mailonline
Published: 01:59 AEDT, 14 December 2019 | Updated: 03:57 AEDT, 14 December 2019
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People living on a street called Corbyn Road have launched a bid to change its name after the Labour stronghold swung to the Conservatives for the first time in its history.
The residential road in the heart of the Dudley North constituency now has its first ever Tory MP after Brexiteer Marco Longhi beat Labour's Melanie Dudley by 11,533 votes.
But now people who live there are worried house prices will drop and the street will be associated with 'racism and failure'.
And losing Labour candidate Melanie Dudley even blamed her party's leader for the historic loss, saying: '[Jeremy] Corbyn didn't always play well on the doorstep. At all.'
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'It's time his name was wiped from history and the name of our street. I don't care what they call it but not after any politician because they're all bloody awful.'
Writing on Facebook, resident Jan Onley said: 'It's time for a petition to ditch the name Corbyn Road for something more united.
'Mr Corbyn doesn't represent us so why does his name appear on our road sign?
'Let's lobby the council to change it to something we all agree with. My suggestion is Unity Road but I'd love to hear other ideas.'
Former Labour stalwart Ian Austin represented Dudley North for 14 years until he dramatically quit in February over Mr Corbyn's leadership and handling of the anti-Semitism scandal engulfing the party.
Weeks before the election he urged voters to back Boris Johnson.
 
Yeah, that's good.

As a natural Labour supporter I'm able to 'take some positives' out of this debacle. Corbyn had become a liability, but won't be around next time. Brexit won't be a factor next time. Most important though, are the age demographics. The18-24 age group split 57-19 in favour of Labour, whereas over 65s spilt 62-18 for the Tories.

Life expectancy is decreasing.

Embrace the future. Dozens of Tory MPs on their way down to Westminster from Northern constituances. Most of them local, working class people and many of them under 30.
Not an old Etonion in sight.
The Tory party is changing and could well be the party of the working class now.
You're like the Mirror's editor, Kevin Maguire who just bangs on with the same old arguments while Labour disappears down the plug hole.

I would consider voting for a centre left Labour leader in the future.
Could be an awfully long wait.
 
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There isn't a short game though, is there? It's five years of the bumbling drunkard.

Jess Philips for me, but whoever get's it they mustn't abandon the popular radical policies.

"Popular radical policies".

Hilarious. How popular were they?

Total denial.
 
"Popular radical policies".

Hilarious. How popular were they?

Total denial.

Some of them were very popular when polled. Too many people can’t vote for Corbyn but his heart was in the right place and people knew that yet still couldn’t vote for him.

Admittedly they need to put more into directly helping blokes named Terry and need to stop valuing the lives of brown kids far away as equal to those of relatively comfortably off folk here to appeal widely enough.
 
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