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bobmid said:
Hes not even worth ignoring Wills. He is on here as a WUM, that is plain to see. Hes just a simpleton mate. Like you say, regardless of difference of opinion with Goldy, at least he debates without insult.
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I like Goldie he's proof that there is room for debate and no matter how opposed the other persons views you are, there is usually some space for middle ground, maximum respect for the fella.

Sure Eelers is a lovely lad if you get him off politics, just a shame what he becomes when you do. Think the last straw on that was the 'who are you really bollocks' I got the same from the righties on the politics thread a long time back on the Prem board, they thought I was a sock of Watfords. Couldn't comprehend that there is someone else out there who find their views abhorrent. It's a standard tactic, try and undermine the credibility of the person and in turn undermine the posts, bonus, you don’t have to respond to the content. Sad really but that’s what politics has reduced people to.
 
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kiwiqpr said:
I'm not ignoring anyone
Have I missed one of the new site rules
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TBH I am glad that whoever he was has put me on ignore. He doesn’t get involved with the footy chat which is why we are here. Only ever comes on the politics thread moaning about the Tories. I won’t miss his rubbish. He’s just getting his excuses in early so he doesn’t have to face me on the 13th. He should have gone to Lanzarote with bob.
 
Willhoops said:
I like Goldie he's proof that there is room for debate and no matter how opposed the other persons views you are, there is usually some space for middle ground, maximum respect for the fella.

Sure Eelers is a lovely lad if you get him off politics, just a shame what he becomes when you do. Think the last straw on that was the 'who are you really bollocks' I got the same from the righties on the politics thread a long time back on the Prem board, they thought I was a sock of Watfords. Couldn't comprehend that there is someone else out there who find their views abhorrent. It's a standard tactic, try and undermine the credibility of the person and in turn undermine the posts, bonus, you don’t have to respond to the content. Sad really but that’s what politics has reduced people to.
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Hang on I thought you put me on ignore! :emoticon-0106-cryin Gutted!
 
The Lib Dems Have Suspended A Candidate Who Repeatedly Made Antisemitic Remarks
Waheed Rafiq also said he wanted to “kiss” “cute black women”, appeared to endorse the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad and backed Donald Trump for president.
Posted on November 21, 2019, at 3:56 a.m.
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The Liberal Democrats are facing a racism storm ahead of their manifesto launch on Wednesday, after the party was forced to suspend an election candidate who made a string of antisemitic comments.
Waheed Rafiq, the Lib Dem candidate in Birmingham Hodge Hill, posted on Facebook in 2010: “shocking to see how the Jewish government call them self Jews when they are wiping out all the people of Gaza”.
In posts uncovered by BuzzFeed News, Rafiq repeatedly made antisemitic remarks, said he wanted to “kiss” “cute black women”, appeared to endorse the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad and backed Donald Trump for president.
The Lib Dems initially signalled they would continue to support Rafiq's candidacy while they investigated the posts, but then suspended him following publication of this story.
A spokesperson said he would be removed from all roles with the party and would no longer receive their backing during his election campaign.
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In a post from 2014, Rafiq called on his Facebook friends to boycott WhatsApp because he claimed it was “Zionist backed”, and promoted an antisemitic trope about the Rothschilds.
“Please note Jeff Rothschild is the Vice President of Infrastructure software and thus also a share holder in Facebook,” he wrote. “There are other non Zionist apps such as the Telegram Messaging App. It's available on both android and apple users created by two brothers in Berlin. It's better encrypted, much safer and thus better than WhatsApp.
“Never forget WhatsApp is Zionist backed so all we do and say is monitored and can leave us vulnerable to be exploited later.”
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In 2012, Rafiq posted a cartoon of a hook-nosed Jew wearing a Star of David hat.
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In 2013, he tweeted at the singer Nicole Scherzinger: “I just one to kiss that cute black women [sic]”.
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In another post from 2014, Rafiq shared an image from an anti-Israel demonstration with a Star of David flag and the words “Genocide, Apartheid, Holocaust”.
And in another 2014 tweet, he posted an image on Twitter showing a cartoon of a man going to heaven and another man burning in hell, with the caption: “Looks like Waheed had the right religion all along”.
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Rafiq has been a Lib Dem council candidate and active member of the party in Birmingham for years, raising questions as to why his social media posts were not dealt with sooner.
But his political views also appear at odds with the Lib Dems. In 2012, he visited Syria and appeared to back the Assad regime.
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In 2016, he tweeted at Donald Trump: “Muslims Love Trump”.
In 2010, he stood in the same Hodge Hill constituency, but for UKIP.
Labour's Alex Sobel told BuzzFeed News: "This Lib Dem candidate has posted a disgusting image of a hook-nose Jewish caricature with a Star of David helmet, blamed Jews for Israel's actions in Palestine, and shared conspiracies about Whatsapp and Facebook being Zionist companies linked to an individual with the surname Rothschild. There is a litany of other offensive posts, from a meme about people burning in hell to supporting Assad.
"The Lib Dems' rhetoric on antisemitism rings hollow when their instinctive reaction was to stand by this candidate and to avoid suspending him. They should withdraw all funding and support from his campaign and immediately halt printing of his campaign materials."
Rafiq did not respond to a request for comment.
 
bobmid said:
Are you Tory or brexit party Turkish?
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All my life I voted Labour, every election until Tony.B.Liar, I didn’t like him, his policies and what he was turning labour into, so I didn’t vote, at the next election I voted Tory too remove liebour from power hoping for a better change of leadership, up popped comrade Jezzbollah Corbynski, I despise the man, his attitude, his anti Semitism, his policies, his choice of mp’s to make up his front bench, his Britain hating, terrorist loving attitude and his sheer inability to even comprehend what he is doing, the man doesn’t have a democratic bone in his body, he lost a leadership vote by a massive majority and refused to stand down, he wants massive immigration to continue un checked and in my honest opinion he couldn’t run a ****ing cake stall at a jumble sale,
So I will be voting Tory again, and will continue to do so as long as momentum and people like comrade Jezzbollah Corbynski, Abacus Abbot, Keir Starmer, and John McDonnel infest the Labour Party.
Liebour have no interest in people outside Islington, Hackney, Tottenham in fact outside London, they have deserted the very people they were formed to protect, the working class, the little man, Me, You.
They are nothing more than champagne socialists, they have forgotten where they come from and that is a sad state of affairs.
 
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Turkish" Premier" Hoops said:
All my life I voted Labour, every election until Tony.B.Liar, I didn’t like him, his policies and what he was turning labour into, so I didn’t vote, at the next election I voted Tory too remove liebour from power hoping for a better change of leadership, up popped comrade Jezzbollah Corbynski, I despise the man, his attitude, his anti Semitism, his policies, his choice of mp’s to make up his front bench, his Britain hating, terrorist loving attitude and his sheer inability to even comprehend what he is doing, the man doesn’t have a democratic bone in his body, he lost a leadership vote by a massive majority and refused to stand down, he wants massive immigration to continue un checked and in my honest opinion he couldn’t run a ****ing cake stall at a jumble sale,
So I will be voting Tory again, and will continue to do so as long as momentum and people like comrade Jezzbollah Corbynski, Abacus Abbot, Keir Starmer, and John McDonnel infest the Labour Party.
Liebour have no interest in people outside Islington, Hackney, Tottenham in fact outside London, they have deserted the very people they were formed to protect, the working class, the little man, Me, You.
They are nothing more than champagne socialists, they have forgotten where they come from and that is a sad state of affairs.
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Respect your position Turkish. Each to their own mate. I have similar views but it's against the tories. They do nothing for us up here in the north. I hate Borisov and the tories due to their lies, corruption, bribery and 'make the rich richer'. I dont trust Borisov one little bit. No impact assesment of his great deal, ripping up the uk, sitting on secret reports etc etc. He and his party dont represent me one little bit.
 
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bobmid said:
Respect your position Turkish. Each to their own mate. I have similar views but it's against the tories. They do nothing for us up here in the north. I hate Borisov and the tories due to their lies, corruption, bribery and 'make the rich richer'. I dont trust Borisov one little bit. No impact assesment of his great deal, ripping up the uk, sitting on secret reports etc etc. He and his party dont represent me one little bit.
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As I respect Yours Bob.
 
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Willhoops said:
Straight away with the insults, and the trying to discredit who I am, weird how earlier I chatted with Goldie and there was none of this, it's almost as though it's you isn't it.. Time to put you on ignore, can't be bothered with your blinkered ignorance anymore
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Have you only just realised Wills. Eelers is a self centred WUM who always tries to bring people to his own insulting level. It’s best just to ignore his childish insults and he’ll soon throw his toys out of the pram and **** off again until the 12th or 13th December....maybe.
 
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Staines R's said:
Have you only just realised Wills. Eelers is a self centred WUM who always tries to bring people to his own insulting level. It’s best just to ignore his childish insults and he’ll soon throw his toys out of the pram and **** off again until the 12th or 13th December....maybe.
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True, unlike saying he'd stay off till the 13th, a Tory telling fibs, who's shocked?
 
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