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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
If Corbyn's reputation is constructed by the media, why the Jewish exodus from his party? You're misleading yourself, Will. It's a lot more serious than that
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Pressure from within communities? I don't know, what I do know is that nobody, not one person has been able to find an anti-semitic comment or action attributed directly to Corbyn himself. If it's for his lack of clinical actions when people reported this within the party, that I can understand that, and have accepted that critique no doubt, but if you take it for what it is, institutionalised bigotry, this can be aimed at any of the main parties, yet it isn't just Corbyn, this is where political interference and media bias is very obvious.

He also gets a lot of flack this way for his stance on Palestine, which sadly a lot of people haven't got the slightest scooby doo about, I feel that if the public were more educated in this situation, pretty much every non Islamaphobe would as a minimum understand his view, however I should hope most would support it.
 
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finglasqpr said:
You seem to have a problem with muslims Goldy.

Criticising them, their culture or their clothing seems to be ok with you but criticising Jewish people seems to be unacceptable. Remember what I said a few weeks ago about people on here having a subtle anti-islam agenda? Bingo. You have just proved it, thanks a lot.
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There you go, Fing, making totally unjustified allegations, presumably for reasons of extreme political correctness.

I don't have a problem with Muslims. I have a problem with face masks. I'd be saying the same for a gang that walked around with a balaclava on all day.

Niqabs etc can be an instrument of male oppression over females, and they are counter our culture of open face. The French government had the same problem with the face masks and banned them. Are you saying the French government has a problem with Muslims?
 
Willhoops said:
Pressure from within communities? I don't know, what I do know is that nobody, not one person has been able to find an anti-semitic comment or action attributed directly to Corbyn himself. If it's for his lack of clinical actions when people reported this within the party, that I can understand that, and have accepted that critique no doubt, but if you take it for what it is, institutionalised bigotry, this can be aimed at any of the main parties, yet it isn't just Corbyn, this is where political interference and media bias is very obvious.

He also gets a lot of flack this way for his stance on Palestine, which sadly a lot of people haven't got the slightest scooby doo about, I feel that if the public were more educated in this situation, pretty much every non Islamaphobe would as a minimum understand his view, however I should hope most would support it.
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Look at the Jewish exodus from Labour.

There are Muslim Tory MP's (one of them is Chancellor of the Exchequer). Are they leaving the party in droves?

You're right, it's the way Corbyn's Labour has dealt, or rather not dealt, with complaints from Jewish members etc
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Such medieval garb has no place in our society imo
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That's a very revealing comment! You are talking of banning clothing worn in huge numbers across the World today. I'd prefer you banned your boring dark grey suit, white buttoned shirt and tie. Medieval garb? That will be what the officials wear in UK law courts today.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
There you go, Fing, making totally unjustified allegations, presumably for reasons of extreme political correctness.

I don't have a problem with Muslims. I have a problem with face masks. I'd be saying the same for a gang that walked around with a balaclava on all day.

Niqabs etc can be an instrument of male oppression over females, and they are counter our culture of open face. The French government had the same problem with the face masks and banned them. Are you saying the French government has a problem with Muslims?
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What do they say, the best form of defence is attack. Oh yeah, it is all my fault that you are using this forum to promote your anti-islam agenda.

Have a read at what you said on here this afternoon and come back to me. You have incriminated yourself with your own comments. Why don't you criticise Scotsmen for wearing kilts or the Zulu tribe for wearing grass skirts? That offends some people.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Look at the Jewish exodus from Labour.

There are Muslim Tory MP's (one of them is Chancellor of the Exchequer). Are they leaving the party in droves?

You're right, it's the way Corbyn's Labour has dealt, or rather not dealt, with complaints from Jewish members etc
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Personally if you are sticking to your morals I can't see why more have not left the conservative party due to institutionalised bigotry, it's clear it's there and that has been backed by the report into Islamaphobia.

I will go back to the media pushed perception, 'to be associated with Corbyn/Labour' you're anti-semetic, which would put serious pressure on people, guilty by association, however because the same amount of exposure is given to the conservsatives the pressure isn't there.
 
finglasqpr said:
What do they say, the best form of defence is attack. Oh yeah, it is all my fault that you are using this forum to promote your anti-islam agenda.

Have a read at what you said on here this afternoon and come back to me. You have incriminated yourself with your own comments. Why don't you criticise Scotsmen for wearing kilts or the Zulu tribe for wearing grass skirts? That offends some people.
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My position is exactly the same as the French Government. Why don't you criticise them, instead of going around defaming people?
 
QPR Oslo said:
That's a very revealing comment! You are talking of banning clothing worn in huge numbers across the World today. I'd prefer you banned your boring dark grey suit, white buttoned shirt and tie. Medieval garb? That will be what the officials wear in UK law courts today.
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Law officers don't cover their faces.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
My position is exactly the same as the French Government. Why don't you criticise them, instead of going around defaming people?
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Your position is a constant sly dig at islam. Why don't you be an honest islamophobe and go join the EDL. That's assuming you're not already a member.
 
Willhoops said:
Unlike the big problem they've had with Islamaphobia going on for ages?
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Not even made the news. If it is true it’s the first Anti-Semitic problem I have heard of in the Tory party. Still about 1000 incidents behind Labour.
 
ELLERS said:
Not even made the news. If it is true it’s the first Anti-Semitic problem I have heard of in the Tory party. Still about 1000 incidents behind Labour.
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You don't see that it has made the news as a problem? I'm not surprised it hasn't for obvious reasons
 
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Willhoops said:
You don't see that it has made the news as a problem? I'm not surprised it hasn't for obvious reasons
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Why? if something like this is true it should make the news. You seem to forget BBC and SKY are liberal lefties that are against Brexit and Boris so why miss a chance like this?
As I have said if true it will be dealt with quickly.
 
ELLERS said:
Why? if something like this is true it should make the news. You seem to forget BBC and SKY are liberal lefties that are against Brexit and Boris so why miss a chance like this?
As I have said if true it will be dealt with quickly.
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Not going to get the same coverage if a labour mp had been done for Islamaphobia though eh
 
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