Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I could see the majority of the '21' voting for the deal as they did for May's. I do wonder if Boris will get shot of the DUP or any ERG members that dont vote for it. I very much doubt it.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
To be grossly fair, I don’t necessarily equate the ‘21’ with the Moists.
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If Parliament vote the deal down, and Boris is forced to get an extension, there will have to be a GE. Boris's manifesto will be this deal, asking the country to give him the majority in Parliament to get it through.

Corbyn's manifesto will just have a drawing of a fence on it!
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
A few of them, but not all. Bob’s point about the ERG and DUP equally valid.
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Yes. I can't see the DUP voting for this. In fairness to them, they never been anything but clear on what their only red line is - no border down the Irish Sea. So when a deal is presented to them with a border down the Irish Sea [essentially shifting the problem from N/S to E/W] it's no shock that they won't vote for it.
 
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Quite Possibly Raving said:
Yes. I can't see the DUP voting for this. In fairness to them, they never been anything but clear on what their only red line is - no border down the Irish Sea. So when a deal is presented to them with a border down the Irish Sea [essentially shifting the problem from N/S to E/W] it's no shock that they won't vote for it.
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It would be hilarious if Brexit is scuppered altogether by the DUP.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
It would be hilarious if Brexit is scuppered altogether by the DUP.
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Aye. I do wonder if Cummings/Johnson has 'played' the EU and the DUP here though. They know full well what the DUP position is on the border in the Irish Sea and that they would never vote for it. However, they negotiated a deal with the EU which has achieved 'changes' [shifting the problem from N/S to E/W] that can be presented as a new and better deal, despite knowing it won't get through.

When rejected, they will be able to use this + the Benn Act as an excuse for an election within the three month extension period, which they are favourites to win - at which point they can push through no deal.
 
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