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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

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    Ellers, thus far each time you've wet your pants whilst jubilantly announcing that a deal was done and that the traitors had been vanquished, you've been wrong. You may yet get your climactic moment, but it is still far from over. Even if Cummings and Johnson get an agreement with the EU, it seems this morning that it's unlikely to get DUP support. Now they may still be bought off I suppose, but the way that Hammond was talking last night suggests that the Tory rebels would still oppose the deal as it's currently understood. Equally, no self-respecting Labour MP could support a deal that paves the way for the deregulation of workers' rights, environmental controls and food standards, so I really can't see right now how this gets through parliament.

    Gloat all you like if we leave on 31st October, bit I still don't think it will happen.
     
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    No british government could or should sign up to any arrangement!
    Boris is a bare faced liar, he lies to anyone and everyone. How anybody, anywhere can trust a single word that comes out of his mouth absolutely baffles me.
     
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    If they are her beliefs and that's the way she feels then in my opinion shes done the right thing. Just as the tories who defied their lying leaders whip. Respect to them all.
     
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    Deal agreed. Now parliament needs to find out what's in it. My bet is that either it's rejected by parliament or that it only passes with a referendum attached.

    Steady Ellers, not there yet.
     
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    Saturday has just become very interesting! Let's not forget, May managed to secure a deal with the EU - and as we all know, that was the 'easy' bit. Despite having a larger majority [or minority] than Johnson, and more Labour rebels than BJ is likely to get, May couldn't pass it through Parliament despite three attempts.

    Will BJ gain more ERG types than he loses from Lab/the 21/DUP? We'll find out soon enough! I wouldn't get too carried away on either side quite yet.
     
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    I think there’s little doubt that any deal put to Parliament will be rejected by all the Nambies, all the Sweaties, most of the Commies and all of the Tory Moists. That is what they do.
     
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    And I agree with both of you, particularly as the DUP aren't in step yet.

    If it's rejected, Boris has to ask for an extension, while telling the EU out of the side of his mouth he doesn't want it.

    The EU don't want an extension, they want a deal and move on with other stuff

    Will the EU threaten not to grant an extension to get this through? Should the EU threaten this before Saturday?
     
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    Does that include the DUP and ERG ?
     
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    No. They’re fluffy, cuddly little marsupials.
     
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    Grossly unfair to the 21 former Tory MPs who voted for the last deal three times, and voted to trigger A50, and could yet still back this deal.

    Whatever happens with this deal, and however they vote, they will have voted for Brexit more times than Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al.
     
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    meanwhile Macron's hired thugs have turned their attention on Paris firefighters. France on the brink of civil war
     
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    To be grossly fair, I don’t necessarily equate the ‘21’ with the Moists.
     
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