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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
West WindsR said:
I really don’t. The brainwashing of people to believe good old Boris is “fighting” on our behalf against a somehow evil EU is genuinely a bit saddening.
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Martyn Selmayr said during the May negotiations that losing N Ireland was the price the UK must pay for Brexit. The people in Brussels are ruthless
 
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GoldhawkRoad said:
Martyn Selmayr said during the May negotiations that losing N Ireland was the price the UK must pay for Brexit. The people in Brussels are ruthless
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The UK can't leave all EU institutions, including the customs union, and not have a hard border with the EU.

There can't be a hard border between NI and the Republic because of the Good Friday Agreement.

A united Ireland is therefore a logical consequence of Brexit.
 
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Stroller said:
The UK can't leave all EU institutions, including the customs union, and not have a hard border with the EU.

There can't be a hard border between NI and the Republic because of the Good Friday Agreement.

A united Ireland is therefore a logical consequence of Brexit.
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let the northern irish have a referendum
should there be a percentage set that everyone will be happy with
or will 1% in favour of an outcome be enough
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
Let’s face it, Yorkie, you just want to stop Brexit period. Vote for the Liberal Undemocrats.
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I will but you're wrong about me. I accepted the result. However I and nobody else anticipated leaving without a deal. The price is too high potentially to be honourable about it. If given another vote, I will do what I did last time - vote to remain. Nobody is to blame as much as the Tories for the fiasco of the last 4 years and if they had got their act together we,d be out now with a deal. However if by some fluke BJ manages to secure a deal rather than a spell in prison so be it. We will all enjoy the consequences good and bad but please don't have a go at me then if it all goes pear-shaped and I say " We told you so".
 
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kiwiqpr said:
let the northern irish have a referendum
should there be a percentage set that everyone will be happy with
or will 1% in favour of an outcome be enough
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Can’t help but feel this issue should’ve been dealt with pre-referendum if not pre-declaring we’re leaving as hastily as possible to save the Tory party. England has thrown NI under a £350m a week NHS bus.
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
I will but you're wrong about me. I accepted the result. However I and nobody else anticipated leaving without a deal. The price is too high potentially to be honourable about it. If given another vote, I will do what I did last time - vote to remain. Nobody is to blame as much as the Tories for the fiasco of the last 4 years and if they had got their act together we,d be out now with a deal. However if by some fluke BJ manages to secure a deal rather than a spell in prison so be it. We will all enjoy the consequences good and bad but please don't have a go at me then if it all goes pear-shaped and I say " We told you so".
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Nobody? How can you possibly know this?
 
Uber_Hoop said:
Precisely. If you ignore the motivation for final outcomes then propaganda is just propaganda.

What’s with all these comparisons between Johnson’s administration and dictatorships and Nazism? Johnson may be an oaf but that’s about it. Lying or reneging on promises? Changing personal convictions and morals? That’s a prerequisite of political life. Just ask Jo Swindle her Nambies.

Dictatorship? Doesn’t that begin with riding roughshod over the democratic process? Where did that start?
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This is interesting. I hadn't seen it when I posted earlier about Cummings's propaganda.

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Find simple slogans and repeat them over and over again.
 
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Stroller said:
The UK can't leave all EU institutions, including the customs union, and not have a hard border with the EU.

There can't be a hard border between NI and the Republic because of the Good Friday Agreement.

A united Ireland is therefore a logical consequence of Brexit.
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I doubt N Ireland would vote for a United Ireland, just as Kiwi implies, but if there is a majority, then fine
 
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West WindsR said:
Can’t help but feel this issue should’ve been dealt with pre-referendum if not pre-declaring we’re leaving as hastily as possible to save the Tory party. England has thrown NI under a £350m a week NHS bus.
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You plonker, Rodney.
 
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