The democracy we have is as good as it gets. If one politician lies or exaggerates, it's up to the opposition to prove it.
If you can show me any country in the world where a system works better, I'll be interested
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The democracy we have is as good as it gets. If one politician lies or exaggerates, it's up to the opposition to prove it.
If you can show me any country in the world where a system works better, I'll be interested
I'm not bothered about any other country, just as it seems you're not bothered about voting on bullshit. It's not democratic to vote on lies. Do you agree a simple yes or no. I'm intrigued
Simple answer......I do not know.
However I’d like to think EU negotiators wouldn’t be so petty and ‘cut off their nose to spite their face’ and refuse a deal that is good for all parties.
But if they did......it would make me realise even more that leaving was the correct thing to do.
It's imperfect but it's the best there is. If we follow your logic, no one would ever vote for anything ever
Bob....every election that ever was has been based on some kind of lies and untruths.....it’s what the ****s do.
I get that mate. So why do people get on their High horse about a vote based on bullshit not being implemented?
You’re totally right mate. And that’s why our vision of ‘democracy’ in this country is flawed.
Look at it this way, Bob. If Labour win the next General Election, and the Tories refuse to give way and demand to stay in government, you'd be rightly outraged. That's how Leavers would feel if the referendum result is not delivered
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He’s got a point though, hasn’t he Strolls ?
Every report I’ve read says that we will have growth in the next recorded quarter...including every financial expert in the world......if you can link a report that says we will go into recession then put it up and I’ll stand to be corrected
NB of course every expert could be wrong I’ll admit.
Meanwhile UKIP have elected yet another new leader, the aptly named Dick Braine. Nothing more need be added...
1/4 we don’t this year and 11/4 we do. Don’t think it’s too far-fetched to suggest it given the recent results.
Got any reports Bracknell ?
I might of missed them ‘cos all I’ve found say they expect growth next quarter
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Great question. i have always said get the withdrawal done quickly because the future partnership deal is what really matters. The member states are all on side now but when we get into details on what really affect their businesses the cracks will start to appear. We need to capitalise on that and see where we can get advantages. I never buy the idea they need us more than we need them but there's a few member states (not just Ireland) who will get hurt by this too so everyone needs to be sensible about it.
Just checked the odds which suggest it’s unlikely, at least this year.
Given the likely inflation on the way as a result of the pound tanking and general pessimism of us great unwashed I don’t think we’ll be seeing much real growth if any over the next couple of years.
So what you’re saying is that the statement that been banded about by some on here (and the media) that we are on the verge of recession, is in fact a load of old bollox ?
Just checking
We don't believe experts though, do we? We want facts. Negative growth in Q2 is a fact, and this leaves us - indisputably it seems to me - on the verge of recession. For clarity, this does not mean recession is inevitable. I really do struggle to get myself understood on here.
So what you’re saying is that the statement that been banded about by some on here (and the media) that we are on the verge of recession, is in fact a load of old bollox ?
Just checking
No. We’ve just had a negative quarter reported apparently. If we scrape to something just above zero I wouldn’t consider it some great victory.
We’re inflicting totally unnecessary economic hardship on ourselves in order to save the Tory party and so some old fuds can have a street party.