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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I think you will find the Irish are beginning to fall out of love with the EU, especially dumping large numbers of ''economic migrants'' in small communities on them

I think you're right. The way to support Albania and Macedonia is to trade with them, which I hope is what an independent UK will do
 
I feel Corbyn's been sending messages to his troops by the way he has acted. It's a case of "who will rid me of this turbulent priest". And his supporters act on it. Anyway there we are. People will look at the evidence from differing positions.

PS I hope McClaren will be covering the whole of you back by teatime!

We’ll have to agree to disagree Goldie, but as always a pleasure to debate with someone who is willing to look at things objectively and post an intelligent and well thought out reply.

I went for a tattoo of Hughes on my arse in the end......it looks **** (boom, boom)
 
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Brilliant question from Hilary Benn MP

"Why is it democratic to keep bringing back to the House a proposition that has been historically defeated twice, but it is somehow undemocratic to ask the British people if they want to change their minds?"

I think I said this here earlier!!!!

Btw...did I ever mentioning I played against Hilary Benn on Top of the Form in about 1970.

His school won!

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Not a brilliant question at all.
Another vote would achieve nothing, although it would be stitched up to split the leave vote.
 
We’ll have to agree to disagree Goldie, but as always a pleasure to debate with someone who is willing to look at things objectively and post an intelligent and well thought out reply.

I went for a tattoo of Hughes on my arse in the end......it looks **** (boom, boom)

:emoticon-0102-bigsm I should think Hughes has given us all enough pain for a lifetime

Pleasure to debate with you too, Stainsey. I'm sure it won't be the last
 
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Macedonia, but especially Albania, are going to soak up a lot of EU money. Ireland, that has until recently (2016) been a net recipient country, will find itself being a big contributing country. I wonder if that will affect the popularity of the EU in that country.
Don't wonder Goldie. We are the largest pro-EU country in Europe bar none despite being a net contributor since 2016. I saw one recent poll which suggested that 88% wanted to remain in the EU. Of course, the circus going on across the water has affected people's opinion. I doubt the 88% figure would have been that high a few years back.
 
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lots of money down the back of the sofa

Spring Statement: Hammond promises 'deal dividend'
By Szu Ping Chan Business reporter, BBC News
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The chancellor has pledged to spend a £26.6bn Brexit war chest to boost the economy, if MPs vote to leave the European Union with a deal.
Philip Hammond vowed to free up more money to help end austerity in a "deal dividend".
However, he said tax cuts and spending rises depended on a smooth Brexit.
Mr Hammond used his Spring Statement to warn that a disorderly Brexit would deal a "significant" blow to economic activity in the short term.
He said the decision by MPs to reject Theresa May's Brexit deal for a second time had left a "a cloud of uncertainty hanging over our economy".
 
Here we go Brexit betray part 3.
A weird side of me wants them to derail Brexit so the people can rebel, kick out all these weak MP's and get some tough Brexit MP's like Farage and co in. We do need a shake up and a big clear out.
 
be nice if all the students paid back the loans
its a problem here too

too many piss off out of the country with no intention of paying any money back
0% interest rate on student loans here



Student loans headache
Mr Hammond is expected to set out detailed plans about how money will be allocated to different government departments beyond 2020 in a spending review starting this summer.
However, changes to the way student loans are treated on the government's books will eat away at the Brexit war chest that Mr Hammond has set aside.
The changes, which reflect the fact that many students will never fully repay their loans, are expected to reduce the pot of available cash by around £12bn this autumn.
The watchdog said this would also make an ongoing aspiration of eliminating the deficit "harder to achieve".
Robert Chote, the chairman of the OBR, said the Chancellor could respond to the statistical shake up by changing his borrowing targets, or by tweaking other tax and spending measures.
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Image caption Changes to the way the Office for National Statistics treats student loans in the autumn will reduce the cash Hammond has to spend
 
Don't wonder Goldie. We are the largest pro-EU country in Europe bar none despite being a net contributor since 2016. I saw one recent poll which suggested that 88% wanted to remain in the EU. Of course, the circus going on across the water has affected people's opinion. I doubt the 88% figure would have been that high a few years back.

Fair play to Ireland, Fing, that the enthusiasm remains despite transitioning to contributor. As the UK goes out and Albania and Macedonia come in, I would expect contributions to rise considerably for contributing countries (I see Ireland's contribution is currently up to 2.7 bn).

I imagine part of the reason for the approval is the weight Brussels has put behind Ireland over the border and backstop. I'll be genuinely interested to see how the 88% satisfaction figure holds going forward (let's hope Brexit is resolved soon.)
 
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