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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
sb_73 said:
Brexit voters believed the **** peddled through the referendum campaign, I’d say a large proportion of them are naive and probably now angry. Not of course the middle class ones like you and Ellers, but the huddled masses of the dying industrial north and the deprived seaside towns. I’m confident none of them voted for a ‘bumpy ride’, they are barely surviving now and were expecting some instant benefits from the referendum result, let alone Brexit itself. These are the people who will genuinely suffer from a no deal Brexit, I’ll just be inconvenienced like you. Neither of us has the right to speak for them. None are natural Tory voters, their vote is more likely to go far right or far left. And the far left have a better story for them, from what I can see.
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A bit patronising that, Stan. After all the fear that Remain have been spreading since the referendum, they will be making their own minds up. I don't believe there will be a huge economic shock from WTO, because the UK and the EU will do everything in their power to reduce friction and avoid job losses on either side of the Channel. We may not be ready yet - if two or three months was used to prepare, that would be ok, but parliament is mostly remain so even then, I think they'd stop it
 
bobmid said:
Why are people so desperate for the EU to crumble or for it to go pear shaped? I seriously dont understand why someone would wish that on others. Is it the British spirit? 17 m of us dont want to be part of it so we hope it fails. Quite sad really
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Brilliant post Bob. It’s the same as ‘it might be a bit bumpy with a no deal Brexit’. I can survive a ‘bit bumpy’. People already using food banks can’t. It’s an arrogant and thoughtless position. They wish ill on the EU because if it fails that will somehow justify their prejudice against it. The EU needs change, which might not happen, but a collapse will bring suffering to hundreds of millions of people. But who cares, they’re foreigners.
 
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Staines R's said:
Who would be leader of the ‘Brexit Party’ ?
I couldn’t see many hard line (ex) Labour voters, like myself, voting for ****s like JRM or Farage.
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I thought about this the other day. Someone said it would be a Boris or someone younger. The Tories have many young MP's that they are saying will be the future... saying that a lot of the good ones are leavers so who knows. remember Farage started out as a Tory but felt they were too Eurosceptic. <laugh>
 
sb_73 said:
Brilliant post Bob. It’s the same as ‘it might be a bit bumpy with a no deal Brexit’. I can survive a ‘bit bumpy’. People already using food banks can’t. It’s an arrogant and thoughtless position. They wish ill on the EU because if it fails that will somehow justify their prejudice against it. The EU needs change, which might not happen, but a collapse will bring suffering to hundreds of millions of people. But who cares, they’re foreigners.
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What a load of bollocks. The member states of the EU have been going a lot longer than the attempt at a federal Europe. Ask the young people in Italy and Spain whether they'll be losing their jobs. They won't because they haven't got a ****ing job
 
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sb_73 said:
I like this shrill, hysterical Ellers. Oh oh, I have been betrayed, I’m a snowflake victim, be scared of what I might do! I might vote for a bunch of nationalist populists to piss you off! Fill your boots baby blue.

Your ERG mates couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone an effective political party. It took them months to get a no confidence vote together, which they lost. Their rich mates are busy getting their cash out of the country. Much more likely that May will go before the next election, Johnson will take over with the help of the gammons and blue rinses in the constituencies, and many of your 17.4m mates, who only have influence through their vote, will be conned into voting for him. Splitting the Brexit vote between Tories and Nationalists. Then your chums will get to vote for the people who betrayed them from the word go, the ones who lied to them throughout the leave campaign.

Brexit voters believed the **** peddled through the referendum campaign, I’d say a large proportion of them are naive and probably now angry. Not of course the middle class ones like you and Ellers, but the huddled masses of the dying industrial north and the deprived seaside towns. I’m confident none of them voted for a ‘bumpy ride’, they are barely surviving now and were expecting some instant benefits from the referendum result, let alone Brexit itself. These are the people who will genuinely suffer from a no deal Brexit, I’ll just be inconvenienced like you. Neither of us has the right to speak for them. None are natural Tory voters, their vote is more likely to go far right or far left. And the far left have a better story for them, from what I can see.
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<laugh>....<laugh> What a sad remoaner you are Sb...All your long arse posts and you are just a remoaner.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
A bit patronising that, Stan. After all the fear that Remain have been spreading since the referendum, they will be making their own minds up. I don't believe there will be a huge economic shock from WTO, because the UK and the EU will do everything in their power to reduce friction and avoid job losses on either side of the Channel. We may not be ready yet - if two or three months was used to prepare, that would be ok, but parliament is mostly remain so even then, I think they'd stop it
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In what way is it patronising? What evidence do you have for not believing in a ‘huge economic shock’? It won’t take a huge shock to push many already on the edge right over it.

Are you now arguing for a delay?
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
What a load of bollocks. The member states of the EU have been going a lot longer than the attempt at a federal Europe. Ask the young people in Italy and Spain whether they'll be losing their jobs. They won't because they haven't got a ****ing job
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I think a few anti-EU comments have upset him.
 
sb_73 said:
In what way is it patronising? What evidence do you have for not believing in a ‘huge economic shock’? It won’t take a huge shock to push many already on the edge right over it.

Are you now arguing for a delay?
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You, the intellectual, are telling people they don't know their own minds. That's straight out of the manifesto for Islington Labour. I've told you why on the economy - if the UK and EU work together to keep tariffs down etc, it can hugely mitigate any adverse effects. I don't know the state of preparation for no deal. If the government take 3 months to improve it, that would be acceptable in my books
 
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ELLERS said:
<laugh>....<laugh> What a sad remoaner you are Sb...All your long arse posts and you are just a remoaner.
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Add content baby blue.

Oops, you can’t, you poor little victim. You’ve been betrayed!

I’d have thought that a man with a degree, two degrees as you have a masters unless you were at Oxford or Cambridge, could cope with a few sentences of reading.
Goldhawk-Road said:
What a load of bollocks. The member states of the EU have been going a lot longer than the attempt at a federal Europe. Ask the young people in Italy and Spain whether they'll be losing their jobs. They won't because they haven't got a ****ing job
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what the **** are you talking about? Do you want the EU to fail or not? I’ll ask my brother, sister in law (though she is foreign) nieces and nephew in Madrid what they think of the EU before I take your word for it. And just because you can survive a ‘bit bumpy’ doesn’t mean others can.

I’m enjoying this. Got a sore throat and am treating it with Montepulciano. When the goals start going in at LR I’ll take the gloves off.
 
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sb_73 said:
I’d have thought that a man with a degree, two degrees as you have a masters unless you were at Oxford or Cambridge, could cope with a few sentences of reading.
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Oh dear you have just lowered your standards now. Getting like the other muppets that I cancelled out.
Maybe you should have a rest fella as you are sounding all bitter and nasty.
 
sb_73 said:
Add content baby blue.

Oops, you can’t, you poor little victim. You’ve been betrayed!

I’d have thought that a man with a degree, two degrees as you have a masters unless you were at Oxford or Cambridge, could cope with a few sentences of reading.

what the **** are you talking about? Do you want the EU to fail or not? I’ll ask my brother, sister in law (though she is foreign) nieces and nephew in Madrid what they think of the EU before I take your word for it. And just because you can survive a ‘bit bumpy’ doesn’t mean others can.

I’m enjoying this. Got a sore throat and am treating it with Montepulciano. When the goals start going in at LR I’ll take the gloves off.
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:emoticon-0100-smile I wish the best for the people of Europe. But if they decide to make life difficult for the bureaucrats of Brussels, I won't complain. As to bumpy ride, the govt is reportedly putting together a hardship fund which is right. I'd pay more tax for that.

If Eze could cross, he'd be a half decent player
 
GoldhawkRoad said:
Ah well, disputes like this are a microcosm of what's going on in the country
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Agree but it just shows you how nasty some get when an argument doesn't go their way. They need to get personal like some of the other muppets. For all their talk they are actually sad people.
 
ELLERS said:
Agree but it just shows you how nasty some get when an argument doesn't go their way. They need to get personal like some of the other muppets. For all their talk they are actually sad people.
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Stan's got a sore throat, so think we should give him a free pass on this one! If we can beat Massive, we'll all feel a lot better
 
GoldhawkRoad said:
:emoticon-0100-smile I wish the best for the people of Europe. But if they decide to make life difficult for the bureaucrats of Brussels, I won't complain. As to bumpy ride, the govt is reportedly putting together a hardship fund which is right. I'd pay more tax for that.

If Eze could cross, he'd be a half decent player
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Once again they only read what they want. For such 'intelligent people' :emoticon-0127-lipss they really should read posts properly.
 
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