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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
West WindsR said:
As big as it needs to be to sustain our ageing existing population. We aren’t particularly densely populated.

The population has gone up by about a quarter in half a century. It’s really not as rapid as the Mail scaremongerers would have us believe.
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England is one of the most populated countries on earth. What happens when the current young generation is old, when it will be say 5 tmes the size of the current old generation? Does it stop or do you invite in another multiple of five and pave over the country? How important do you think the environment is?
 
GoldhawkRoad said:
England is one of the most populated countries on earth. What happens when the current young generation is old, when it will be say 5 tmes the size of the current old generation? Does it stop or do you invite in another multiple of five and pave over the country? How important do you think the environment is?
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It doesn't matter anyway, it'll be Waterworld in fifty years.
 
All I hear is bad predictions/scenarios/forecasts for a no deal brexit. Seriously are there any positive ones anywhere? It wouldn't surprise me if the Tory leaders deal went through. Stranger things have happened. Sometimes a counter prediction/forecast might be a more reasoned approach then purely dismissing the negative ones as rubbish/scare mongering.
 
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GoldhawkRoad said:
England is one of the most populated countries on earth. What happens when the current young generation is old, when it will be say 5 tmes the size of the current old generation? Does it stop or do you invite in another multiple of five and pave over the country? How important do you think the environment is?
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What difference does it make to the environment if a person is here or not?

We aren’t one of the most populated or densely populated countries. Not even close
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Some people will die, some people will leave but it’s vital to have as high as possible a share of the population of working age or the country logically would have to go backwards economically and we’d be a less appealing option for those healthy young, productive immigrants we need.
 
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Sums it all up posted by steel on the review thread

If you're leaving please still say goodbye?
And if you are leaving can you leave me my silver jubilee mug?
My old flag?
My dark woods?
My sunrise?
If you’re leaving can you please say goodbye?
And if you are leaving can you leave your number?
I'll pack my case
And get in the cab
And wave you goodbye
I'll drive in the early hours down to the sea
I’ll stand on the beach where the storms amplify
All the voices that I care for
And the ghosts I hold sacred
In this alignment that lasts for a day
There's nothing that I can do anyway, anyway
What am I doing here?
Waiting for you?
Eh, hey
So rebuild the railways
Firm up all the roads
No one is leaving
Now this is your home
And the horses, the foxes, the sheep, and the cows
Bow down on their knees
To the fanfare of progress, it's always the same
We cheer on the clowns as they roll into town
But their faces look tired and sad to me
And carry the terrible things they've seen
All lost in a painting of a sky coloured oil
In this Merrie Land
You are my crows, my window rattlers
Perfumed valley criers
Oh the dark ponds of Merrie England
The deep space echoes
Get on your mo
What did you say? Mobility (you can fly)
Get on your mobilised hooters (to the moon)
Hooters
Mobilised Hooters
(One day)
Get hold of those mobilised hooters
They are half price
This is not rhetoric
It comes from my heart
I love this country
Daneland, I am your kin
You were the ones who work together
Put the money in the pockets
To the few and their fortunes
Who crowd the school benches
And jeer at us all 'cause they don't care about us
They're graceless and you shouldn't be with them
'Cause they are all disconnected and raised up in mansions
And two hundred plastic bags in a whale's stomach
So you turn to the trident
Are we green, are we pleasant?
We're not either of those, Father
We're a shaking wreck where nothing grows
Lost in the sky coloured oils of Merrie Land
You can fly to the moon
One day
 
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Sums it all up posted by steel on the review thread

If you're leaving please still say goodbye?
And if you are leaving can you leave me my silver jubilee mug?
My old flag?
My dark woods?
My sunrise?
If you’re leaving can you please say goodbye?
And if you are leaving can you leave your number?
I'll pack my case
And get in the cab
And wave you goodbye
I'll drive in the early hours down to the sea
I’ll stand on the beach where the storms amplify
All the voices that I care for
And the ghosts I hold sacred
In this alignment that lasts for a day
There's nothing that I can do anyway, anyway
What am I doing here?
Waiting for you?
Eh, hey
So rebuild the railways
Firm up all the roads
No one is leaving
Now this is your home
And the horses, the foxes, the sheep, and the cows
Bow down on their knees
To the fanfare of progress, it's always the same
We cheer on the clowns as they roll into town
But their faces look tired and sad to me
And carry the terrible things they've seen
All lost in a painting of a sky coloured oil
In this Merrie Land
You are my crows, my window rattlers
Perfumed valley criers
Oh the dark ponds of Merrie England
The deep space echoes
Get on your mo
What did you say? Mobility (you can fly)
Get on your mobilised hooters (to the moon)
Hooters
Mobilised Hooters
(One day)
Get hold of those mobilised hooters
They are half price
This is not rhetoric
It comes from my heart
I love this country
Daneland, I am your kin
You were the ones who work together
Put the money in the pockets
To the few and their fortunes
Who crowd the school benches
And jeer at us all 'cause they don't care about us
They're graceless and you shouldn't be with them
'Cause they are all disconnected and raised up in mansions
And two hundred plastic bags in a whale's stomach
So you turn to the trident
Are we green, are we pleasant?
We're not either of those, Father
We're a shaking wreck where nothing grows
Lost in the sky coloured oils of Merrie Land
You can fly to the moon
One day
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Brilliant.
 
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West WindsR said:
What difference does it make to the environment if a person is here or not?

We aren’t one of the most populated or densely populated countries. Not even close
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Some people will die, some people will leave but it’s vital to have as high as possible a share of the population of working age or the country logically would have to go backwards economically and we’d be a less appealing option for those healthy young, productive immigrants we need.
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Density - If you look at my post I said England. That's where immigrants are settling. They don't want to go to the Scottish Highlands.

Population levels have a huge effect on the environment. We're losing large numbers of species due in part to the intensification of agricultue. Look at infrastructure. We don't have it for 100 million people. Increasing it would conflict with the idea of using the countryside for recreation. Quality of life matters.
 
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At the risk of being accused of being obsessed, the Orange One's ridiculous and pathetic trade war with China is looking like it might lead to another global recession. Markets are tanking, whilst Trump dismisses the threat of a potential future US debt crisis because he won't be there when it impacts.

Still, mustn't grumble.
 
Stroller said:
At the risk of being accused of being obsessed, the Orange One's ridiculous and pathetic trade war with China is looking like it might lead to another global recession. Markets are tanking, whilst Trump dismisses the threat of a potential future US debt crisis because he won't be there when it impacts.

Still, mustn't grumble.
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Tumpton's problems with China has caused the drops in the markets and agree I listened to some US bod yesterday who mentioned recession. No doubt you will probably get some blaming Brexit.
 
ELLERS said:
Tumpton's problems with China has caused the drops in the markets and agree I listened to some US bod yesterday who mentioned recession. No doubt you will probably get some blaming Brexit.
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Haha, brilliant!.

Just like the Tories blaming Labour for the collapse of global Capitalism in the bankers' crash?
 
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