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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
DT’s Socks said:
France are in no trouble what so ever
Where exactly are these being taken down to ? Nothing will happen on the scale you are predicting imo life will continue
And after all of this I suspect the Brexiteers will be shouting off that the U.K. has done it again... they have saved Europe from the evil EU ... that coming from a country where personal debt is the highest

Load of tosh Ellers you have become obsessed you need help mate
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DT you are deluded and have no counter argument.

I said the other day that Macron has very low popularity ratings (lower than Hollande). You told me I was talking rubbish. The funny thing was as I was reading your post it was confirmed on the BBC. Ministers have resigned as well. If you don't believe me read this or the many other articles.
https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/why-macron-is-falling-and-maybe-failing-20181008

I told you Italy would be causing problems for the EU, yet again you told me I was talking rubbish.... Have you actually read the papers this year? Only Friday I watched finance news about Italy and they said if it goes wrong for Italy they would take France and the Euro down with them. All the panel agreed.

Time and time again you are wrong and won't open your eyes. Anyway, you believe what you want.
 
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DT’s Socks said:
France are in no trouble what so ever
Where exactly are these being taken down to ? Nothing will happen on the scale you are predicting imo life will continue
And after all of this I suspect the Brexiteers will be shouting off that the U.K. has done it again... they have saved Europe from the evil EU ... that coming from a country where personal debt is the highest

Load of tosh Ellers you have become obsessed you need help mate
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“ France are in no trouble at all”
Oh dear DT take of your rose tinted euro glasses and do a bit of research, France as with the majority of countries have adopted the euro, a make believe currency championed by the Corrupt EU. The Euro has failed in Greece, it is failing in Italy and when the euro becomes worthless just remember that France’s entire economy is based on it and when the euro becomes worthless so will France.
 
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ELLERS said:
These are interesting times indeed Turkish. If (when) Italy fails they will take France down with them who by the way are living on borrowed time with their own finances. I said a while back that many EU countries are unhappy. I agree with you that they will be watching what happens with us.

The EU is terrified of losing us. They are using puppets like SNP/Blair and co and of course all the threats to undermine the process. It hasn't worked and they have realised they better get a deal or it will ruin them. Notice the language of the EU after the Tory conference when the word 'No deal' got mentioned all the time? Junker started being positive and today they are saying 90% success rate on a deal. Apparently, according to a few reporters, Germany stepped in and said 'sort it out'. That would make sense as only last week many top businesses in Germany met and were worried of a 'No deal' outcome.

What the EU negotiators misread about the UK is that we would survive without them whereas many other EU countries would not. That is why many of the 27 want to keep the thing together, especially the Eastern European countries who are terrified of Russia.

The losers in all this will be the SNP who are trying their best to derail the process and get an independence referendum. They have also misread the EU because they will not want them in their group as they won't contribute like us. It will be another burden on them...It won't happen.

Don't get me wrong May/government has messed about with Brexit but I think luckily their gamble has paid off. I see us getting a good free trade deal which will include the Irish border being sorted. I also believe that people living and working in the EU will be fine and things won't change that much.

The Eu started off as a good trade organisation between countries but now it's turned into a Frankenstein and once we leave people won't miss it.
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^^^
Project fear <whistle>
 
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Willhoops said:
Na mate, it's a story that doesn't fit my view point so I'll instantly dismiss it as project fear, that's how it works doesn't it?
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Well the one thing I have learned from this thread is there were a lot of people telling us that the UK would sink into the sea and no planes would land, we will be broke for 50 years, all the companies would leave (that's my favorite:emoticon-0136-giggl). And 2 years later....We are still here. I would just say to all our resident experts... you got it wrong.
Or doesn't it count as we haven't left yet? <laugh>
 
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Turkish" Premier" Hoops said:
“ France are in no trouble at all”
Oh dear DT take of your rose tinted euro glasses and do a bit of research, France as with the majority of countries have adopted the euro, a make believe currency championed by the Corrupt EU. The Euro has failed in Greece, it is failing in Italy and when the euro becomes worthless just remember that France’s entire economy is based on it and when the euro becomes worthless so will France.
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He talks rubbish and knows nothing about the country he loves and lives in. Macron is so desperate to take firms away from the city of London for Paris and is failing 'les miserably'
 
ELLERS said:
Well the one thing I have learned from this thread is there were a lot of people telling us that the UK would sink into the sea and no planes would land, we will be broke for 50 years, all the companies would leave (that's my favorite:emoticon-0136-giggl). And 2 years later....We are still here. I would just say to all our resident experts... you got it wrong.
Or doesn't it count as we haven't left yet? <laugh>
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Is that so ellers? All the experts were telling me when we left the EU that we would have everyone begging to trade with us, the EU would let us have our cake and eat it, the Japs will be sending over their women and cars and Donald Trump was going to bow down before the queen. I was going to get so rich that i could have a super and a supermodel gold digging girlfriend with my chump change.

I'm still waiting for Moggy to deliver.
 
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ELLERS said:
Well the one thing I have learned from this thread is there were a lot of people telling us that the UK would sink into the sea and no planes would land, we will be broke for 50 years, all the companies would leave (that's my favorite:emoticon-0136-giggl). And 2 years later....We are still here. I would just say to all our resident experts... you got it wrong.
Or doesn't it count as we haven't left yet? <laugh>
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Don't jump the gun mate, best just waiting and seeing what happens hey. Could be for the better, could be for the worse. I suppose it depends on the potential of a deal or not.
 
ELLERS said:
Well the one thing I have learned from this thread is there were a lot of people telling us that the UK would sink into the sea and no planes would land, we will be broke for 50 years, all the companies would leave (that's my favorite:emoticon-0136-giggl). And 2 years later....We are still here. I would just say to all our resident experts... you got it wrong.
Or doesn't it count as we haven't left yet? <laugh>
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You need some glasses then as that’s not what’s being said, will companies leave the U.K. Yes that’s happening, has there been damage to the economy? Yes, will this get worse? Yes again by all accounts even Mogg has stated it’ll take 50 years to see ‘benefits’. You’ll also have more vacancies including the nhs which will is already at breaking point, no trained staff so the U.K. will have to look even further afield, I’ve no problem with more Indian and African doctors and nurses, but is that a benefit? How long will the cross over of staff take to implement?

Yes I’ve listed a few things I see as negative impacts ... not dropping into the sea. Yet to see any real benefits though
 
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BobbyD said:
Is that so ellers? All the experts were telling me when we left the EU that we would have everyone begging to trade with us, the EU would let us have our cake and eat it, the Japs will be sending over their women and cars and Donald Trump was going to bow down before the queen. I was going to get so rich that i could have a super and a supermodel gold digging girlfriend with my chump change.

I'm still waiting for Moggy to deliver.
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You have been listening to the wrong people.
 
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bobmid said:
Don't jump the gun mate, best just waiting and seeing what happens hey. Could be for the better, could be for the worse. I suppose it depends on the potential of a deal or not.
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I don't need to jump the gun I have seen the language of the EU negotiators. May has been very quiet and if I were her I would stay quiet a bit longer. Last week she was a crap dancer and this week she may be pulling off a good deal. This is what everyone should want (if we don't give away stuff).
 
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Willhoops said:
You need some glasses then as that’s not what’s being said, will companies leave the U.K. Yes that’s happening, has there been damage to the economy? Yes, will this get worse? Yes again by all accounts even Mogg has stated it’ll take 50 years to see ‘benefits’. You’ll also have more vacancies including the nhs which will is already at breaking point, no trained staff so the U.K. will have to look even further afield, I’ve no problem with more Indian and African doctors and nurses, but is that a benefit? How long will the cross over of staff take to implement?

Yes I’ve listed a few things I see as negative impacts ... not dropping into the sea. Yet to see any real benefits though
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Project fear. Let's see how long these so-called companies last when the Euro goes bust.
https://news.sky.com/story/italy-shares-slide-on-deepening-spat-with-eu-11521481

A bit of advice... Don't buy any Euro's for a bit.
 
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ELLERS said:
I am helping you out. in the summer I got 1.08 Euro's to the £. last week it was 1.11 and today it was 1.14. They are saying with a deal it will hit 1.20+. So I am saying don't buy Euro's for a bit.
That's not project fear it's called project reality.
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Well maybe you’ll see how dismissive replies of ‘project fear’ can come across when negative information that is a high probability, or a reality. As I’ve mentioned it’s pretty much universally accepted there will be a fair bit of negative impact as a result of Brexit it’s not a contentious view, yes the U.K. won’t go back to the dark age but an impact will be felt and that’s a serious concern.
 
Turkish" Premier" Hoops said:
If you say so, but that also means everything you say doesn’t fit my view point so I can also dismiss that as project bullsh*t !!!!
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Just making a point as I’ve noticed that any information relating to the downside of Brexit seem to be shouted down and dismissed, despite the evidence, and ‘project fear’ seems to be a standard response.
 
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