Off Topic The Politics Thread

[sb_73]

That is correct you do pay in France. I believe ( I maybe wrongish) but I thought my friend paid 70% of the bill or it might have been 30%. I was drunk when he told me.

It’s 30% of the charge, and then he can reclaim the rest from his insurer. So it’s co-pay but you get your bit of the co-pay back. And as it costs about €50 for a cardiologist consultation it’s pretty affordable. For conditions like cancer or diabetes costs are 100% reimbursed, as they are for the retired and low/no income (I think). It’s a mixed public/private provider system, but all reimbursed the same way. The French pay just over 5% of their salary into healthcare insurance, which is run by the government. The French spend more than anyone else apart from the Americans on healthcare and have just about the best outcomes.

 

[ELLERS]

First day, I only joined really to see the joke posts photos you can't see without being a member.

This is not the jokes page though? However it's not for me to worry about.

 

[kiwiqpr]

This is not the jokes page though? However it's not for me to worry about.

some days its easy to confuse the two

 

[West London Willy]

And you pay for Health in the UK, it's called National Insurance, it's not free as a lot of people believe.

It’s far cheaper than US insurance and covers everybody. It’s free at the point of delivery, as in you don’t get given a bill. Huge difference.

Question: why are you trying to question what the NHS is? Are you from the US?

 

[ELLERS]

It’s far cheaper than US insurance and covers everybody. It’s free at the point of delivery, as in you don’t get given a bill. Huge difference.

Question: why are you trying to question what the NHS is? Are you from the US?

France methinks.

 

[sb_73]

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, the EU signs it’s biggest ever free trade agreement with Japan, covering 600 million people and a third of the worlds GDP. So that’s another one for Liam to get to work on, in addition to the 52 others in place.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, the EU signs it’s biggest ever free trade agreement with Japan, covering 600 million people and a third of the worlds GDP. So that’s another one for Liam to get to work on, in addition to the 52 others in place.

But that misses the point. We have to show them who's boss and negotiate tough. I've said it before. If it really is so simple and profitable to leave and forge new trading relationships why have our leaders been wasting time - agree the terms and get out. That could have all been sorted within a couple of months. We'd have maintained good relations. Sometimes, pardon me, always, negotiations are about being willing to compromise. Too many leaders on the British side have grasped that if you really want a divorce with your long-term partner so that you can sleep around and play the field, then cough up immediately and be generous. You never know when you might fancy going back later when your new playmates are not there to nurse you and wipe your arse in your old age

There is something particularly tiresome when negotiating a deal to go into it as if you're two old gypsies haggling over an old nag. My apologies to any Romanies reading this if I've stereotyped you inaccurately and unfairly. They do it because they enjoy it but ask them both beforehand and they know what the fair price is at the outset.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, the EU signs it’s biggest ever free trade agreement with Japan, covering 600 million people and a third of the worlds GDP. So that’s another one for Liam to get to work on, in addition to the 52 others in place.

so where will toyota and nissan be moving to

 

[ELLERS]

so where will toyota and nissan be moving to

France. The rushed that deal through...I wonder why?
Ah bless they are worried about the US and Brexit...smells like desperation.

 

[ELLERS]

"Negotiations on the pact between Japan and the EU, which started in 2013, had stagnated for a time but regained momentum after Trump took office in January 2017".

Meanwhile in other news:
The number of people with jobs in the UK just hit an all-time high

 

[QPR999]

First day, I only joined really to see the joke posts photos you can't see without being a member.

Question: why are you trying to question what the NHS is? Are you from the US?

France methinks.

He's posting from New Jersey, US. I think it's durbar trying to worm his way in yet again. New member, purports to be a QPR fan from the USA yet heads straight to the 'Politics' thread to ask questions about US healthcare with no comments about his beloved R's? He'll be nuked tomorrow ( later ) as was the 31 year old Croatian female Sebastian from Dublin.

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[Steelmonkey]

He's posting from New Jersey, US. I think it's durbar trying to worm his way in yet again. New member, purports to be a QPR fan from the USA yet heads straight to the 'Politics' thread to ask questions about US healthcare with no comments about his beloved R's? He'll be nuked tomorrow ( later ) as was the 31 year old Croatian female Sebastian from Dublin.

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[Goldhawk-Road]

Remainers have been plotting to stop brexit since we voted to leave.
Another referendum is just another way of trying to stop what was voted for by nearly 17.5 people.
I hope we just walk away now.

WTO rules look perfectly acceptable, given that most countries use them to deal with the EU

Interesting that there are signs that the arrogant and patronising Brussels is now in a cold funk over no-deal because they won't get their £39bn.

 

[ELLERS]

Do you also notice the 3 options that Geeening put forward.
Leave No deal
Deal TM soft
Stay
That is purely to split the Brexit vote so we stay. It's a joke and I am glad it keeps getting dismissed.

 

[ELLERS]

He's posting from New Jersey, US. I think it's durbar trying to worm his way in yet again. New member, purports to be a QPR fan from the USA yet heads straight to the 'Politics' thread to ask questions about US healthcare with no comments about his beloved R's? He'll be nuked tomorrow ( later ) as was the 31 year old Croatian female Sebastian from Dublin.

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I find it quite sad if it is him. If you get banned from something you should just move on. Get a life.

I need the football season to start so we can get back to talking Rangers.

 

[BobbyD]

what happened to durbar? how come he got barred? remember seeing him here a few times

 

[Stroller]

Do you also notice the 3 options that Geeening put forward.
Leave No deal
Deal TM soft
Stay
That is purely to split the Brexit vote so we stay. It's a joke and I am glad it keeps getting dismissed.

It's based on a transferable vote - i.e. it would go to second preferences.

Perfectly reasonable.

 

[kiwiqpr]

He's posting from New Jersey, US. I think it's durbar trying to worm his way in yet again. New member, purports to be a QPR fan from the USA yet heads straight to the 'Politics' thread to ask questions about US healthcare with no comments about his beloved R's? He'll be nuked tomorrow ( later ) as was the 31 year old Croatian female Sebastian from Dublin.

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But Sebastian English has improved so much

 

[sb_73]

It's based on a transferable vote - i.e. it would go to second preferences.

Perfectly reasonable.

A poll published in the Times today has first preferences:
Remain 50%
Leave with deal 17%
Leave with no deal 33%
And second preferences
Remain 55%
Leave with deal 0%
Leave with no deal 45%

I’m no expert at analysing these things but it might point to a Remain v Leave No Deal face off making most sense.

 

[West London Willy]

But leaving with the deal is surely most representative? The Leave voters get what the referendum question actually said: we leave the EU. But the Remain voters get some of their views heard as well: we still get to trade, we still have a viable economic link with Europe, and the fear of companies going bust or relocating is, to an extent, removed. And the Irish border question goes away.

If those who voted Leave truly did do with democracy in their minds, the fact that the vote was 51.9/48.1 (well within Farage’s “too close to be taken as decisive” margin) means that you can’t completely ignore the Remain Vote when looking for a democratic solution.