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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
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TheBigDipper said:
The circus continues as another dead cat is thrown onto the table…

Just why has Rudd resigned, exactly? Was it:
  • because she really did know there were targets and lied about it?
  • because she didn’t know there were targets and she should have known?
  • because the department she was responsible for had a policy that was reprehensible and now it’s being talked about it by the public it reinforces the idea that the Conservatives are “the nasty party”, and so she takes the blame because she’s the current incumbent?
  • something else?
In general, people who are living in the UK illegally should be identified. Then, what happens next should really be a judgement about the person, their longevity here and their conduct since arriving. There’s a big difference between a child who came to the UK 40 years ago to join their Windrush parents (even if they’re technically illegal, unlike their parents) and who have led worthy lives in the UK ever since, and a petty criminal who never went home after their short holiday in London 3 years ago. It’s a bad law that doesn’t differentiate and it’s a bad policy that permits officials to chase easy targets who’ve been a contributor to society since they started living here.
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Option three, and Theresa May is responsible for the policy and its implementation. Rudd was incompetent, May was vicious and uncaring.

Speaking of cats.....

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Has the Cabinet just become more Eurosceptic? The new Home Secretary Sajid Javid is a Remainer that has seen the light. If the Lords try to subvert democracy, the whole anachronistic House (filled with failed LibDems) should be pulled down.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Has the Cabinet just become more Eurosceptic? The new Home Secretary Sajid Javid is a Remainer that has seen the light. If the Lords try to subvert democracy, the whole anachronistic House (filled with failed LibDems) should be pulled down.
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Have to admit he cuts a pretty impressive figure. That power pose that all the Tories do really seems to work.

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Goldhawk-Road said:
A bit unfair - he's a bright guy, and an incredibly successful businessman from a humble beginning. It's an astute appointment, because it's spiked Diane Abbot's guns, who was enjoying playing the race card (which is about all she's good for)
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Some of the comments about him from the left have been an absolute disgrace. It's almost like saying if you vote Tory you're not really black or Asian. Is that not a little bit prejudiced?
 
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Some of the comments about him from the left have been an absolute disgrace. It's almost like saying if you vote Tory you're not really black or Asian. Is that not a little bit prejudiced?
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Comments like "coconut" have come from Corbyn's Left Wing (members of the Labour party) saying to black and Asian people, if you vote Tory or are a member of the Tory Party/Government, then you have betrayed your people and take orders from your white masters. These left wing trolls are as bad as extremists in UKIP - I see that a UKIP member of the North Welsh Assembly has been excluded for calling Chuka Omunna a coconut. Disgraceful.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
A bit unfair - he's a bright guy, and an incredibly successful businessman from a humble beginning. It's an astute appointment, because it's spiked Diane Abbot's guns, who was enjoying playing the race card (which is about all she's good for)
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Came across wrong that. I meant about him being the son of immigrants. A very good if not ironic appointment
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Comments like "coconut" have come from Corbyn's Left Wing (members of the Labour party) saying to black and Asian people, if you vote Tory or are a member of the Tory Party/Government, then you have betrayed your people and take orders from your white masters. These left wing trolls are as bad as extremists in UKIP - I see that a UKIP member of the North Welsh Assembly has been excluded for calling Chuka Omunna a coconut. Disgraceful.
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I'm sure Javid will use his new influence to speak out against Islamophobia in the Tory party, as denounced by Baroness Warsi. The Muslim Council of Britain has called for an enquiry, which is yet to be forthcoming. No doubt the MSM will be all over it, though, just like anti-Semitism in Labour.
 
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Stroller said:
I'm sure Javid will use his new influence to speak out against Islamophobia in the Tory party, as denounced by Baroness Warsi. The Muslim Council of Britain has called for an enquiry, which is yet to be forthcoming. No doubt the MSM will be all over it, though, just like anti-Semitism in Labour.
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It's absolutely embarrassng and pathetic really
 
Anyone else voting in the local elections today? I did my bit on the way to work - two votes for random Labour candidates and one for Green. I have no knowledge of any of the individuals on the ballot paper, nor do I have any particular issues with my local council (Hillingdon - Tory), but always make sure to vote at every opportunity.
 
No elections near me, but I'm following some of the London ones closely, to see the number of votes gained by members of the newly formed centrist and Pro-EU Renew Britain party.
 
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Stroller said:
Anyone else voting in the local elections today? I did my bit on the way to work - two votes for random Labour candidates and one for Green. I have no knowledge of any of the individuals on the ballot paper, nor do I have any particular issues with my local council (Hillingdon - Tory), but always make sure to vote at every opportunity.
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I'm not sure it's right to vote for someone you know nothing about.
 
durbar2003 said:
I'm not sure it's right to vote for someone you know nothing about.
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My vote is based on a the general fact that Tory councils are inclined to prioritise lower council tax over provision of services. I'm happy to pay more council tax if it means the place is kept clean, places are found for homeless people and there are good local facilities. Similarly, I'm happy to pay more income tax if it means a stronger NHS and better social services. It's a big state, little state thing.
 
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Stroller said:
I'm sure Javid will use his new influence to speak out against Islamophobia in the Tory party, as denounced by Baroness Warsi. The Muslim Council of Britain has called for an enquiry, which is yet to be forthcoming. No doubt the MSM will be all over it, though, just like anti-Semitism in Labour.
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If there's Islamaphobia in the Tory Party, it's been kept very quiet - even Diane Abbott hasn't mentioned it. It can't be that bad if they've just made a Muslim Home Secretary. I don't believe Corbyn has any Jewish ministers does he? He sacked Debbie Abrahams
 
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